Opposite of Redundant?

Singular. Or single.

Ie. I climb all the time on a single rope. If that rope fails, because it's not redundant, I'm going to be shit out of luck.

Nick Goldsmith wrote: 

D bag comment

Clint Cummins wrote: Dependent, but there's probably a better word.

Can we have the option of using two words? What about "critically dependent"? 

As a structural engineer:

1. Fracture critical
2. Determinant (as opposed to indeterminate)

Ryan Dresser wrote: UNdundant. 

Dundant

Dave K wrote: In the OP configuration, having two bolts is actually worse than having only one.

Is there a way to create an anchor where having three is worse than having two? I can't think of a way to do that. I believe you would need a sling with three ends...

Three pieces in a horizontal line with one of the outside pieces sketchy, rigged with a cordelette in the usual way is, or might be, worse than just the two better pieces.

Anti-dundant

FrankPS wrote: So if you don't put the rope through the ring, that's a problem?

Huh? What does this even mean?

 Um, maybe a better example would help spur conversation. The setup in the photo is absurd.

Isn't that the entire point?

Shiny stainless steel bolts in good rock don't fail*. But if we're running with the idea that untarnished stainless steel could spontaneously fail, why couldn't a properly-threaded rappel ring fail? Heck, why couldn't your rope, or belay loop, or belay device fail? Maybe your spine gives way and you simply snap in half in an unexpected slip on the sidewalk?

The opposite of redundant is spending way too much time worrying about all the ways you could die because of random equipment failure. In reality, it's your own lack of attention to detail that will end you. Not the succinct answer you were looking for, I'm sure.

* = SCC

What about disposable?

Ryan Dresser wrote: UNdundant. 

We're not doing that! It's UNDUNDANT!!!!111

I LIKE IT.

Marc801 C wrote: Huh? What does this even mean?

Isn't that the entire point?

As you (should) know, several/most items in climbing are not redundant. The belay loop, rope, etc. So that seems like a reasonable topic. Discussing an incorrect setup, such as in the photo, isn't as much an issue of redundancy, but of incompetence and inexperience. 

Anyway, those were my thoughts. You are free to continue to argue it.

Props to Dave K (I was hoping a systems engineer would weigh in!) and Tammy Gueterman, they get it.

As the OP, I'm officially declaring "anti-redundant" as the winner.  Nice work, Tammy.

Sam Skovgaard wrote:

For everyone else having trouble keeping up, I'll make things more clear.

1)Yes, this pictured setup IS absurd, that's my point.  This pic actually comes from the Un-Belay-vable series on climbing.com

2)In the pictured setup, if either bolt fails, you fall.  If instead the rope were threaded through through the ring, if either of the bolts fail you live (a redundant system)

3) Yes, Frank, I am aware how to use inline bolts for raps.

This is not a redundant anchor as the ring, the point that takes all the wear, is not redundant.  It is a rope shredding set up though for sure.  

Ryan Dresser wrote: UNdundant. 

Clearly the winner since our limited English language is not suited to convey every permutation of every idea in a single utterance (which Germans seem to have perfected)

Dan 60D5H411 wrote:

Clearly the winner since our limited English language is not suited to convey every permutation of every idea in a single utterance (which Germans seem to have perfected)

Although the word for redundant in German is "redundant." 

What word would you use to describe the opposite of redundant?  Where failure of any component of a multi-component system causes catastrophe?  I can't seem to think of a word in the English language to describe this concept.

Catholic: Nundant
Philosopher: One-N-donedant
Maga: Trumpdant
Astronomer: Singularidant
Enviromentalist: Ecoretardant
Socialist: Your-single-piece-belongs-to-everyone-dant
Alex Zebastian: All-your-single-pieces-belong-to-me-dant.
Tradiban:  use-your-single-brain-once-dant
Excess skin dog: Re-pugdant.

Greg D wrote: Catholic: Nundant
Philosopher: One-N-donedant
Maga: Trumpdant
Astronomer: Singularidant
Enviromentalist: Ecoretardant
Socialist: Your-single-piece-belongs-to-everyone-dant
Alex Zebastian: All-your-single-pieces-belong-to-me-dant.
Tradiban:  use-your-single-brain-once-dant
Excess skin dog: Re-pugdant.

I've Been-there-and-dundant.