Does anyone really watch POV climbing footage? I never do. Boring, slow and not helpful in any way that I can see. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm genuinely curious who watches these and why?
So here's a genuine answer.
Basically I am an obsessive nerd and I spend as much time as I can trying to absorb as much as I can about whatever I'm curious about.
I've watched a lot of FirstPersonBeta's channel on youtube.
I am usually doing this when I'm falling asleep, especially I've been out at the bar drinking earlier in the evening. I suspect that there may be an element of ASMR to it. But before that I watched a ton of "Daves World of Fun Stuff", where it's this old Canadian dude fixing guitars. After the first couple dozen refret jobs, I've kind of stopped watching, but it was very interesting getting used to the pacing of how he works.
Mostly, I just like to see up close and in real time how other people are practicing their craft. I watch a lot of 3rd person climbing videos too, and have watched every climbing film I've been able to find on any streaming service.
I can't say I learned a lot, but I do feel like it's been interesting. For one thing, I haven't been climbing seriously until about a year ago, so watching someone place a lot of gear, getting used to the pacing of placements, and seeing what choices are made at different points has been interesting.
I mean, yeah, it's boring and slow. But I'm a big nerd.
Learning to play guitar was slow at first, and I watched a ton of folks playing, too. Learning to work with computers has been super slow and boring, but I watch a lot of talks by programmers, too. Watching Sal Kahn or 3blue1brown lecture about math was boring at times, too, but about a year ago I did learn how to work with derivatives.
I can't stand to watch sitcoms and I don't have a lot of patience for most movies, but if it's someone talking about something I am curious about, I can focus quite well for a long, long time.
Spencer Parkin wrote: Here's some footage of the easiest possible thing you can climb in BCC Utah.
Feel free to comment on all my mistakes and bad form. E.g., first piece should be bi-directional, etc.
Post up your head-cam videos. They're fun to watch.
By the way, I'm surprised mountain project doesn't ask for such videos to be posted on beta pages. They do that on hiking project, powder project, etc.
Thanks for posting, I enjoy these myself. I like the Youtube channel "FirstPersonBeta". Brave to post up and put up with all the hate.
For a lot of trad gear, yes - but with some considerations I didn't state. A lot is personal preference as well
Given the amount of gear the OP was hauling, yes - for me, here's why: * I can't stand the cluster when all that crap is on my harness * I don't like the weight on the harness * it's too easy to drop stuff as I find it more awkward to find and select pieces, tempting me to take off the entire biner of nuts rather than just the piece I need. * if I'm placing gear on overhanging terrain, it's way easy to swing the sling around and plop the rack in my lap and pull off the piece I want instead of say, blindly reaching behind me for the piece that gravity keeps swinging away from me
I'm also talking about the jacket/vest style of racking sling - not the old school over the opposite shoulder style.
For sport, I rack all my draws (and the occasional trad piece - some sport routes/areas require that) on my harness.
As I recall you were on these forums a while ago and got ran off by the trolls. Welcome back! I mean that genuinely. The forums haven't changed: everything you say will be used against you, but that doesn't mean you can't say it.
Does anyone really watch POV climbing footage? I never do. Boring, slow and not helpful in any way that I can see. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm genuinely curious who watches these and why?
I watch them mainly for route beta, not so much for the cringe worthy moments.
I’m hoping to do a trip to Stone Mt, NC this winter/early spring and there’s a few decent ones for beta.
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I'm going to tape my phone to my helmet and make a video this weekend just for this thread.
Jason Halladay wrote: Does anyone really watch POV climbing footage? ... I'm genuinely curious who watches these and why?
I do but I probably don't count.
The "why"s vary but I can say, definitively, there are a lot of climbers that love this content. Beyond the views the channel receives, climbers greet & thank me in person, write me emails, some even buy me dinner and donate gear. A few even provide a little financial support. I'm grateful for all of it and certainly is one of the primary reasons I work hard to keep producing content, because I recognize the value that many others see in it.
It's also been hi-lighted in this thread that some people not only dislike these videos but seem outright threatened by them. There are the obvious cited reasons, and I'm sure most are genuine, but even outside MP, there is a general stigma around actioncam (Gopro) footage and climbing (and even across other sports). Those are the other "why"s I'm interested in as one of my goals with the channel is to break that stigma.
John Reeve wrote: I suspect that there may be an element of ASMR to it.
I was just discussing with a friend of mine last week how I suspected that there are a (small) percentage of people that subscribe to the channel for this reason. Ironically, much of my audio editing is spent eliminating artifacts that would probably be very ASMR inducing. Personally, the audio I'm editing out drives me nuts.
Basically I am an obsessive nerd and I spend as much time as I can trying to absorb as much as I can about whatever I'm curious about.
I've watched a lot of FirstPersonBeta's channel on youtube.
I am usually doing this when I'm falling asleep, especially I've been out at the bar drinking earlier in the evening. I suspect that there may be an element of ASMR to it. But before that I watched a ton of "Daves World of Fun Stuff", where it's this old Canadian dude fixing guitars. After the first couple dozen refret jobs, I've kind of stopped watching, but it was very interesting getting used to the pacing of how he works.
Mostly, I just like to see up close and in real time how other people are practicing their craft. I watch a lot of 3rd person climbing videos too, and have watched every climbing film I've been able to find on any streaming service.
I can't say I learned a lot, but I do feel like it's been interesting. For one thing, I haven't been climbing seriously until about a year ago, so watching someone place a lot of gear, getting used to the pacing of placements, and seeing what choices are made at different points has been interesting.
I mean, yeah, it's boring and slow. But I'm a big nerd.
Learning to play guitar was slow at first, and I watched a ton of folks playing, too. Learning to work with computers has been super slow and boring, but I watch a lot of talks by programmers, too. Watching Sal Kahn or 3blue1brown lecture about math was boring at times, too, but about a year ago I did learn how to work with derivatives.
I can't stand to watch sitcoms and I don't have a lot of patience for most movies, but if it's someone talking about something I am curious about, I can focus quite well for a long, long time.
One appeal to first-person climbing videos that most here won't be able to relate to...
It's a chance for someone like me to pretend they are somewhere they'll never get to go. Will I ever climb the Nose? No. But it would be interesting, to me, to catch a glimpse of what it would be like from the climber's perspective.
Spencer Parkin wrote: One appeal to first-person climbing videos that most here won't be able to relate to...
It's a chance for someone like me to pretend they are somewhere they'll never get to go. Will I ever climb the Nose? No. But it would be interesting, to me, to catch a glimpse of what it would be like from the climber's perspective.
Personally, the audio I'm editing out drives me nuts.
I think that you'd benefit greatly from an external mic with a fluffy dead-cat (well, the tiny ones for lav mics). Much of the noise is handling from the camera mic. But I think that you've started doing that, maybe?
would help with part of it. Tweaking with the where and how of how you're mounting the mic would eliminate the other parts of it.
There are also noise reduction programs (or at least there were 10 years ago when I was trying to do AV professionally) that can automate some of that work.
Anyhow, keep up the good work on the channel, I've watched 80% of what you've recorded.
Welcome back, Spencer! It's been two years since I caught an Uber from Outdoor Retailer to climb with you in SLC on a blind date. Good to see you back on the rock, friend! We should get out again next month when I visit family in SLC.
I got into rope soloing with my Revo and got some footage. As little POV as possible, but I did incorporate some.
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