Should we stop saying "biner"?

I wonder how she'd feel about "whiplash" since it has two reminders of people being mistreated in it.  And "whiplash" is a medical injury, a shitty band, and a move from 2014, so it's probably more common than "whipper."

It's starting to feel like every word is offensive if you try hard enough.  The article in the OP said it was offensive to say "man up" because it supports the patriarchy.  The author instead suggested "be brave."  But isn't that appropriating the term "brave" from Native Americans?

You can still say biner just not at starbucks. 

John RB wrote: I wonder how she'd feel about "whiplash" since it has two reminders of people being mistreated in it.  And "whiplash" is a medical injury, a shitty band, and a move from 2014, so it's probably more common than "whipper."

It's starting to feel like every word is offensive if you try hard enough.  The article in the OP said it was offensive to say "man up" because it supports the patriarchy.  The author instead suggested "be brave."  But isn't that appropriating the term "brave" from Native Americans?

You really have nothing better to do, do you?

John RB wrote: I wonder how she'd feel about "whiplash" since it has two reminders of people being mistreated in it.  And "whiplash" is a medical injury, a shitty band, and a move from 2014, so it's probably more common than "whipper."

It's starting to feel like every word is offensive if you try hard enough.  The article in the OP said it was offensive to say "man up" because it supports the patriarchy.  The author instead suggested "be brave."  But isn't that appropriating the term "brave" from Native Americans?

Damn bro you dont like Whiplash the band??? Thats some classic underrated thrash!!!

https://youtu.be/lknbRCAgufg

GET PSYCHED TO SEEEENDDD

John RB wrote: I wonder how she'd feel about "whiplash"...

It still hasn't been established whether she was the one feeling awkward  or the poster using the term "whipper".

Is the old joke “ Why are cooks cruel?”   now possibly considered racist?

If someone is bothered by ‘biner or whipper (because it’s a loaded word for them) I have no problem using an alternative word around them. To refuse to see the word means different things that could bother someone and keep using it is a dick move. Is dick move offensive to men?   For many people saying “I’m not politically correct” really means “I’m an ass and I don’t care how others feel”.

But it’s also lame to say ‘biner means something else to some people so you can’t use that word at all. 

Suburban Roadside wrote:

.... the jugs till you can pinch the nipple with your left while fisting the flaring slot under the next set of jugs with your right.

 Match hands, fist jamb, grab the lip, release, heel hook, rock over hard, till right over the slot & mount the sloping face, where you have to dick in some pro, cause  there are only studs without hangers & you still have a run out to the chains"

Triggered. 

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also strangely turned on.

The problem with everything Social Justice (aside from its nefarious roots in Critical Theory) is that it's proponents are habitual line steppers. Constantly pushing the boundries further and further.
We get it. You spent a shitton on a totally worthless degree and you feel mandated to push the indoctrination you paid so much for.
Fortunately for everyone else, we have adapted to the real world post college. 5 years ago you wouldn't see this much push back, but ordinary people are finally saying FTS and resisting.

Glowering wrote: If someone is bothered by ‘biner or whipper (because it’s a loaded word for them) I have no problem using an alternative word around them. To refuse to see the word means different things that could bother someone and keep using it is a dick move. Is dick move offensive to men?   For many people saying “I’m not politically correct” really means “I’m an ass and I don’t care how others feel”.

This.

And for those still whining about "political correctness"....

Most dictionaries agree with the basic definition that political correctness, as we see it today, is the idea that people should be careful to not use language or behave in a way that could offend a particular group of people. But what it mostly comes down to is not being a jerk to others. In other words, political correctness could almost be interchanged with the word respect, or kindness, or with the act of being non-judgmental. Of course, being PC also means not calling someone a racial slur, not making judgments based on gender stereotypes, or making assumptions about someone’s perceived sexual orientation. It’s about not oppressing a group of marginalized people. But it’s mostly about not being a jerk. 

From: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lets-not-confuse-political-correctness-with-basic_b_582f8071e4b0d28e55214ed8

Should we just stop saying things?

Stuff is OK.

Glowering wrote:  I don’t care how others feel

What if I don't care? 

grog m wrote:

What if I don't care? 

The world needs assholes too.

Glowering wrote:

The world needs assholes too.

I'm not an asshole. My experience in this world isn't dependent on others acting a certain way, following my values, doing as I think is right.

People should stop hinging their happiness and experiences on others.

Eric wrote:

That is exactly how an oversocialized person would respond.

Think for yourself -- is a rock climbing "whipper" a racist term?  Of course not, no serious person thinks there is a racial connotation.  Is "whipped cream" racist?  Of course not.

Because you are very sensitive to perceived morality for social purposes, just like any oversocialized person, you find yourself unable to explain that there is no racial connotation.  Frictionless social transaction trumps other concerns to the point that you can't imagine it any other way.

It would have been OK to explain to your co-worker that the "whip" in "whipper" is closer to, for example, whiplash, as you fall on a bouncy dynamic rope, and is not evocative of whipping slaves.  Ask yourself why you couldn't have this conversation.  Is it because you are oversocialized?

No - I'm not arguing that it's a racist thing. It's super fucking clearly not lol. I'm saying if it bothers someone else just go "eh, whatever" and move on. No need to get in a huff about it ya know. 

Hayden Moore wrote:

No - I'm not arguing that it's a racist thing. It's super fucking clearly not lol. I'm saying if it bothers someone else just go "eh, whatever" and move on. No need to get in a huff about it ya know. 

Why can't they (the potentially offended) do the same thing?

I really don't have time for people who are looking for something to be offended by so they can feel a sense of superiority for which their ignorance doesn't give them an opportunity.

Glowering wrote: To refuse to see the word means different things that could bother someone and keep using it is a dick move. 

It's just not that simple.

Many people seek to constantly expand the set of "offensive" words as if it were some sort of accomplishment. There is a cultural movement that prides itself in adding more words to "the list" using any loose association or absurd leap of logic necessary. The OP article is a great example.

If the word "whip" is offensive because of slavery, why not "ship" or "cotton" or any the literally thousands of words that have some context related to slavery? Who gets to decide when the association is valid and when it is ridiculous? Can anyone simply declare a word as hurtful at any time, in any context?

These ever-expanding speech codes are no longer about righting wrongs, or even compassion. Most people who claim to be offended by benign, commonly-used words do not feel any real hurt.

This is about power. Many people enjoy controlling the behavior of others, even in small ways. It has the same psychological foundations as bullying.

Marc801 C wrote: This.

And for those still whining about "political correctness"....

From: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lets-not-confuse-political-correctness-with-basic_b_582f8071e4b0d28e55214ed8

And that is the post-implementation narrative being pushed by the Progressive paradigm as to redefine and obfuscate what it means. 

In actuality, as I mentioned above, the origins of the Social Justice movement lie with a strategy known as Critical Theory. Look it up.
And stop using any media source that has an ideological angle if you don't want to be seen as nothing but a indoctrinated narrative pusher.

Brother Numsie wrote:

And that is the post-implementation narrative being pushed by the Progressive paradigm as to redefine and obfuscate what it means. 

In actuality, as I mentioned above, the origins of the Social Justice movement lie with a strategy known as Critical Theory. Look it up.
And stop using any media source that has an ideological angle if you don't want to be seen as nothing but a indoctrinated narrative pusher.

Anyone that reads the title with an open mind will get a chuckle from the irony: