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Victory whip!!

Max Manson · · Superior, CO and Stanford, CA · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 491

Maybe it’s BPPV. It happens when little crystals called Oro Stones get knocked loose from your inner ear and bounce around in there. I know it can cause nausea and headaches. Seems like a whip could’ve knocked one loose.

Brent Kelly · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 186

Have you tried drinking 1 to 2 liters of water over the course of an hour or so, and seeing how you feel then?

Sounds like you were exerting yourself pretty intensively, and pumping some adrenaline. Plus with the induced vomiting and NSAIDS, I'd say step 1 is just making sure you're not dehydrated.

Not a doctor, though. Please visit one if the issue doesn't resolve. Mild whipping seems unlikely to cause concussion without some other factors being in play, but concussions are no joke.

Also, yeah, if you're "victory whipping" after *every* climb... especially if it's in a gym setting... maybe ask yourself why, and do some basic risk/reward analysis?

Whipping to build psychological tolerance and resilience is all well and good, provided it's done responsibly. But V-Whips on anything but difficult, overhanging projects (or meaningful flashes/onsights) with plenty of airspace and extremely reliable hardware just seems foolish, in my opinion.

Jim T · · Colorado · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 469

Did you figure it out yet?  (Didn’t read through the pages).  Sounds like a stiff neck...mild whip lash.

i shore · · London · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

It might have been better to avoid ibuprofen and other NSAIDS as they can trigger, or presumably aggravate, bleeding. I imagine broken blood vessels in the brain just possibly could have caused your symptoms. However I must emphasize my medical knowledge is virtually nil.

Matt S · · Milwaukee, WI · Joined May 2018 · Points: 0

I believe this what is "Too much winning" feels like!

Ryan Pfleger · · Boise, ID · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 25

Sudden worst headache of your life is usually just that. The worst headache of your life. It can also be a subarachnoid hemorrhage, especially with nausea and vomiting. Unless the Mountain Proj App has a CT scan option somewhere, the safe thing to do is go to the ER. Doesn't sound like BPPV either, because of the headache, but you could Youtube "Epley maneuver". And acetaminophen is the same thing as paracetemol.

Edit: reread the OP and saw that the vertigo might have come before the headache. Its a little unclear. That makes BPPV sound like a possibility. But, DOOD! If you're concerned enough to consult rando strangers on the internet, you should be concerned enough to get checked out. Unless this is just your scattergun approach to life, and you also ask the ER nurses if they prefer Fixe Triplex or Rawl 5 piece. In that case, play on.

Russ Keane · · Salt Lake · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 447

Try wearing a looser beanie.

Cris Garcia · · Michigan · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 42

Hey guys thanks for all the responses still but I’m all good. I didn’t think it was serious enough to need medical attention and I never got it. It was probably just a bad headache or something idk either way It only knocked me down for about 2 days so it couldn’t have been that bad I guess . 

Sam Sala · · Denver, CO · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 82
Cris Garcia wrote: It only knocked me down for about 2 days so it couldn’t have been that bad I guess . 

Sounds like it's time to start skipping the 2nd to last clip too then.

Josh Lipko · · Charlotte · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 10

Cool. Still don’t do that in the gym. It’s lame.

Cris Garcia · · Michigan · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 42
Sam Sala wrote:

Sounds like it's time to start skipping the 2nd to last clip too then.

I’m already on it chief

Lena chita · · OH · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 1,842
Josh Lipko wrote: Cool. Still don’t do that in the gym. It’s lame.

What's lame? Falling?

O.K., sure, if the guy makes loud whooping noises and yells "victory whip" at the top of his lungs before pitching off, that would be obnoxious. But a guy taking a fall from the anchors, instead of clipping, because he wants to have some falling practice?

How does it affect you? Why do you care? Is it only for the falls at the anchors, that you object to, and it's O.K. if he falls at the bolt below last, just not at the last? Or do you object only if someone calls their deliberate fall a "victory whip"? Maybe he should throw a wobbler and announce loudly to everyone that he fell by accident, NOT on purpose, in order to satisfy you?

NegativeK · · Nevada · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 40

First time I had a migraine (all visual, no headache), I ignored it. Second time, a nurse friend yelled at me to go to the doctor.

Went to the doctor. Doctor said "eh, it happens -- but go to this specialist to make sure. And watch out for these symptoms in the future." Specialist said "eh, it happens." They still happen.

Moral of the story: Go to a doctor. It's likely nothing, but brain changes are for doctors.

Cris Garcia · · Michigan · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 42
Josh Lipko wrote: Cool. Still don’t do that in the gym. It’s lame.

On the bright side I’m leading a full grade higher now that I’m not scared of falling!  12’s are within reach! Have to link all the moves togeather now :)

NegativeK · · Nevada · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 40
Eric wrote:

That is not actually the moral of this story.  The moral of your particular anecdote is you'll be fine if you don't go to the doctor.


You found the weak joke; I'm sorry for your loss.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Eric wrote:

That is not actually the moral of this story.  The moral of your particular anecdote is you'll be fine if you don't go to the doctor.


No, the moral is that for him, in this specific instance, he would be fine if he didn't go to a doctor. In a different event, either for him or someone else, not seeing a doctor could be catastrophically bad. So to say uncategorically that you'll be fine if you don't see a doctor is at best incredibly poor advice.

John Barritt · · The 405 · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 1,083
Cris Garcia wrote:

On the bright side I’m leading a full grade higher now that I’m not scared of falling!  12’s are within reach! Have to link all the moves togeather now :)

Hold up, wait a minute,

You're taking big victory whips, nearly give yourself a TBI, and can no longer spell together......over gym .11s?

Aleks Zebastian · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 175

climbing friend,

do not listen to the haterz of your "victory whip"

let your heart soar high, and your balls dangle low, as you huck your sweaty meat sack from anchors on nigh, soon surpassing all their abilities, yes, they are secretly afraid of falling and tense up, oh my, and climb like child when most desperate above the protektion

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911

I take victory whips only after sending Mt. Yurmomma.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

Taken lots of failure whips but never a victory whip.. I’m jealous!

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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