what is the right thing to do?
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I'm in a delimma and curious to know what the community thinks. I have had a climbing partner who in the past I have watched him hide gear under his shirt he/she found at the crag to get it back to the car. Hides it so owner dosen't see it. I myself am a true beliver in karma and given the sport we do and its dangers, I myself would NEVER do this. It is wrong in every way. The right thing to do is post a note on climbers board and at least attempt to return said gear too owner. Now i have been going through all my cams and have noticed many many are MIA or swapped out for one that is not safe for climbing on. He/she is the only climber I have climbed with since I relocated to the Northwest. I ultimately feel betrayed as I have given said person gear I no longer needed. Its a given I will NEVER climb with he/she again, but should I expose this person so others are not done the same way. |
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Obviously yes. Otherwise you are enabling a Klepto. |
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Have you confronted your (ex) partner? Have you ever said anything to him? The "hiding" part sounds like he is a thief. You should say something to him about your missing cams and his shady ways. |
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Is he hiding booty he found in a crack or swiping it off of someone’s pack at the base? |
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I cannot get him to return my phone call, i suppose my next option is to go to is work to confront him. |
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packs where at the tent we where 100+ yards up hill. we hiked up to climb the feathers, short sport routes. |
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See something say something |
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you are right. it has bothered me since it happened, however i did tell him that wasn't right, but at the time I should have done more. This was the first time I have ever been in a situation such as this. |
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Careful, his reputation is at stake/we're only hearing one side of the story/hey, look! Can of worms! |
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get the torches! cut his stealin' hand off! |
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Allen Koehler wrote: I cannot get him to return my phone call, i suppose my next option is to go to is work to confront him. With the intent to accomplish what? Get your stuff back, change that person’s behavior, tell them off and assuage your guilt? |
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Ah yes - good idea. We needed a sacrificial anode for life of the “bad apples” thread. But work on the sincerity part. And don’t let anyone catch on. |
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What would Jesus do? |
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Be the implement of Karma, & stand up for what you know is right & what you say. |
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Keep doing things together. Start putting his stuff under your shirt since software and hardware work best at body temperature. Then hide it well when he is not looking. |
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So it's come to this: crowd-sourcing of ethics. We're doomed. |
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Allen Koehler wrote: I'm in a delimma and curious to know what the community thinks. I have had a climbing partner who in the past I have watched him hide gear under his shirt he/she found at the crag to get it back to the car. Hides it so owner dosen't see it. I myself am a true beliver in karma and given the sport we do and its dangers, I myself would NEVER do this. It is wrong in every way. The right thing to do is post a note on climbers board and at least attempt to return said gear too owner. Now i have been going through all my cams and have noticed many many are MIA or swapped out for one that is not safe for climbing on. He/she is the only climber I have climbed with since I relocated to the Northwest. I ultimately feel betrayed as I have given said person gear I no longer needed. Its a given I will NEVER climb with he/she again, but should I expose this person so others are not done the same way. The ethical thing to do is make up your mind on your own. |
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Tradiban wrote: And then post him a negative on the newly developed MP Partner Rating System,a 1/5 for Moraleity. |
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You should have had zero tolerance for the very first time he pulled that shit. Been like "Hey, wtf are you doing!?!” |
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We need to resurrect the art of the post-climb discussion ... on the drive home, in camp, over pizza and beer, etc.. |
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Expose him, he deserves it. Stealing is never right. |




