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what is the right thing to do?


Marc H · · Longmont, CO · Joined May 2007 · Points: 250
don'tchuffonme wrote:

We get it "Jaren".  You're smart.

Is the US, the period goes inside the quotes. Also, this would be the perfect place to use a semicolon. Since we’re getting technical and all. ;-)

Tim Lutz · · Colo-Rado Springs · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 5

Do  you really need MP to tell you that stealing is wrong?!

Is it Shawn Snyder?

https://www.mountainproject.com/user/108464676/shawn-snyder

Also, 'Karma' doesn't mean what your Americanized definition thinks it does

Paul Hutton · · Kansas City, MO · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 740

 might as well confront them if you're never climbing with them again. I've had the same suspicion about a climbing bro I loved, and was heartbroken to think it was possible for them to do such a thing. There wasn't enough of a pattern, so i casually asked them if they had any of my cams, and left it at that. 

Chris Hatzai · · Bend, OR · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 566
Dr Strangelove wrote:

Get a job loser! Btw, been enjoying your routes. 

Lol im at work right now ! 

Jaren Watson · · Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 2,390
Chris Hatzai wrote:

Lol im at work right now ! 

Corporate shill!

Redyns · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 80

dude is stealing!  period.  you are an enabler and an accomplice.  

Chris Hatzai · · Bend, OR · Joined Sep 2015 · Points: 566
Jaren Watson wrote:

Corporate shill!

Haha! Kinda.?

Nate Doyle · · Sierra Foothills · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 39

You stopped climbing with him. That's enough, don't do more. If you do you'll probably make things worse than they already are.

If anything let someone more capable of handling such a situation deal with it. Although it's a bit of "passing the buck", I really don't think you're the person to confront him and have things turn out the way you think they should. It will just end in more drama and you'll be the one left holding the bag of shit and asking wtf just happened.

Perhaps talk to the police instead of confronting him directly? See what they say. This will free yourself from the guilt and will also remove you from things possibly esculating from theft in to something way worse. 

Note:
I'm assuming full blown theft vs him finding booty and accidentally mixing up cams after climbs. You have yet to clerify if it was some cam left half way up a cliff or from someone's bag or what?

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,460
Nate Doyle wrote: You stopped climbing with him. That's enough, don't do more. If you do you'll probably make things worse than they already are.

If anything let someone more capable of handling such a situation deal with it. Although it's a bit of "passing the buck", I really don't think you're the person to confront him and have things turn out the way you think they should. It will just end in more drama and you'll be the one left holding the bag of shit and asking wtf just happened.

Perhaps talk to the police instead of confronting him directly? See what they say. This will free yourself from the guilt and will also remove you from things possibly esculating from theft in to something way worse. 

Lol, the police have better things to do.

Nate Doyle · · Sierra Foothills · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 39
Tradiban wrote:

Lol, the police have better things to do.

Not where I live. 

Try Cam · · Ft. Wayne, IN · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 0
Tradiban wrote:

Lol, the police have better things to do.

#climbingwhileblack

Ma Ja · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 1

Well, the Karma already found you. If you didn't protest his first attempt at this shit, and then he ended up stealing your shit, then you deserved it. Sorry dude, you fucked up by not standing up for the other people that he was stealing from.

I would have broke all of his climbing/stealing fingers if i caught him stealing my gear. Shit is WAY too expense for some dick bag to walk off with it like it's his. 

Wes Turner · · az / pa · Joined May 2003 · Points: 30
Allen Koehler wrote: I'm in a delimma and curious to know what the community thinks. I have had a climbing partner who in the past I have watched him hide gear under his shirt he/she found at the crag to get it back to the car. Hides it so owner dosen't see it. I myself am a true beliver in karma and given the sport we do and its dangers, I myself would NEVER do this. It is wrong in every way. The right thing to do is post a note on climbers board and at least attempt to return said gear too owner. Now i have been going through all my cams and have noticed many many are MIA or swapped out for one that is not safe for climbing on. He/she is the only climber I have climbed with since I relocated to the Northwest. I ultimately feel betrayed as I have given said person gear  I no longer needed. Its a given I will NEVER climb with he/she again, but should I expose this person so others are not done the same way.

Thanks All

Not enough info. Are you saying he bootied gear from a route? I don't post about something I bootied from a route. Rarely happens. But imo if you leave it on route, you lost it. Some people have more time, and may be nicer... but I don't go to those lengths. Primarily because there was no way to talk about it long ago and I never adopted the habit of posting that on line... or wanting to go to the trouble of mailing it, etc.. whatever. If I found a rack or some quantity of gear at the base of a route that someone obviously forgot, yeah... I would do something to try to get it back to them. Has never happened to me though. If it is at some packed crag like the gunks and I saw the group on the route, sure... If I got it out, or sent the route, I'd give it back to them. I mean, c'mon. 

If I leave a piece on a route, I consider it gone and never expect to see it again... and hold no ill will towards whoever gets it. My fault for the bad placement, or having to bail. I own the cost. 

If you are saying this guy is stealing gear off the ground and then hiding it in his shirt because the owner is there or known or around... That's called theft. lol.
BatMasterson · · Red Rock,AZ · Joined Aug 2016 · Points: 40
Bootz Ylectric · · Chicago IL · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 165
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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