Grown Men Who Live in Vans: Lonesome or Loathsome?

Dave Holliday wrote:

Actually, Elena was the best troll this site has ever seen and maybe will ever see. Who else around here has had such a slavishly devoted fan club that follows them around in the forums? Aleks, maybe, but he would be a distant second. I don't see anyone currently posting who gets under people's skin the way she did (although that may say more about the people who's skin she got under than her). The list of contenders for best troll around here are either too half-witted, juvenile, or obvious to measure up to Elena's body of work.

Nope, don't think so.  A key and necessary component is for the troll to be posting something that they actually know is untrue and/or specifically to cause contention.  Trollanor didn't start doing that until she got pissed off that everyone said she was dumb af and posted nothing but nonsense- which she did.  She wasn't smart enough to be a good troll, and it was pure coincidence that she was dumb and not self-aware enough to post idiocy that got underneath everyone's skin consistently.  She was, at best, an unwitting troll and is nowhere in the realm of tardiban or Aleks- because they do what they do intentionally.  She was more like the female version of ViperScale, who also will not be missed.  

At least tardiban and Aleks are entertaining (though it has faded recently) and doing it on purpose.  She was just an idiot.

zach s wrote:

the only thing you give to society is being a lonely mountain project troll. It is ignorant to assume that all people that live in their vans dont attribute to society. I have a friend who lives out of his van full time guiding, and when he's not guiding, he's either helping clean up the park, or he's helping repair trails. thus out of the like 5 things his life consists of three of them are contributing to society in a more positve way than you do. oh look im assuming. but youre still an asshole. 

But seriously "zach", I'm sure your buddy contributes but is it a net gain?

What happens when your "friend" gets sick or injuried and his tax payer subsidized health care picks up the bill? How about when he's too old to work? What if he gets that #vangirl pregs since prophylactics are like $10?!

Vanlife is the short game at the expense of those playing the long game.

Enjoyed waking up to these lulz, gotta love MP.  

Hang in there guys.  Someone else will come along eventually.  Plenty of stupidity out there. And tge climbing community is expanding....

The best is yet to come.

Tim Lutz wrote: 

HAHA,  Dwain's Bane                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

I heard that if you say 'Ginger Beardo' 7 times in a mirror IT will resurface from the underworld!!!!

Meet  Lonesome o` Loathsome

 Francis Enrack

Jaren Watson wrote: Trolling is better when it’s unintentional. 

No such animal.

troll2/trōl/verbgerund or present participle: trolling

1. 1.INFORMALmake a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

don'tchuffonme wrote:

...She was more like the female version of ViperScale, who also will not be missed...

VIPERSCALE! NOOOOO!

Viperscale is gone ?
I thought I had noticed a decrease in blatantly incorrect posts. 

Marc801 C wrote: Viperscale is gone ?
I thought I had noticed a decrease in blatantly incorrect posts. 

Wait, so entire accounts get deleted now, along with every post they've ever authored? They used to just get disabled. The account was still there, along with their entire posting history, but a red message long the lines of, "this account is no longer active."

Even Elena Sera Jose's profile existed within the past year. (Elanor was before my time, but I was able to look up some of the history.) Now it's gone. When did that start?

Edit: apparently Elena Sera Jose is still there, the profile just doesn't show up in search... weird. And it appears most of Viperscale's posts still exist, but his name has been removed from the posts, and the profile is now gone.

Mobes Mobesely wrote:

BITD? It seems this person still lives a healthy and full life in your head!

Not really.  Hadn't thought of her in years until someone brought up bad trolling.  I kind of associated her with Killis, in that way.  Both were a at least bit unhinged, and Elenor almost certainly diagnose-able even if high-functioning.

Speaking of vans... you know she did live in a van and remarkably, it had a mold problem.  One of a few fungus types inhabiting it, I suppose.

Jaren Watson wrote:

Elenor provided moments of brilliance.

It's the troll that keeps on giving! She had a pack of dudes playing wack-a-mole for a long time.

don'tchuffonme wrote:

No such animal.

troll2/trōl/verbgerund or present participle: trolling

1. 1.INFORMALmake a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

DING DING DING!!!!
IMO good trolling should also be qualified by getting your target to believe you are earnest in your assertions/beliefs.

Hellanor's "trolling" (if it even deserves that moniker) sounded more like the product of a primitive chat-bot written in the haze of a drug binge by a pubescent pervert bouncing between foster homes that couldn't handle her, or maybe even in the care of 'captain red-beard' himself, which might explain a few more things.

The life lesson to be learned here is that you have trolls and those that get trolled, victors and victims.

Dylan B. wrote:

Why do you presume a “productive society,” is a goal worth contributing to? You’ve swallowed the capitalist propaganda, hook, line and sinker, Nick. 

So, Dylan, you must be one of those other suckers... free college and health care for all!!! Yehaw!!! Even if all you do is maintain trails for a select group of society. Oh, that's right, you pick up trash too, that your selective society left in "the park."

Yes, that is deserving of free healthcare and free college... fuck this work shit man, just gimme my entitlements brahjisrahjiman!!!

x15x15 wrote:

So, Dylan, you must be one of those other suckers... free college and health care for all!!! Yehaw!!! Even if all you do is maintain trails for a select group of society. Oh, that's right, you pick up trash too, that your selective society left in "the park."

Yes, that is deserving of free healthcare and free college... fuck this work shit man, just gimme my entitlements brahjisrahjiman!!!

Tony B wrote:

DING DING DING!!!!
IMO good trolling should also be qualified by getting your target to believe you are earnest in your assertions/beliefs.

Hellanor's "trolling" (if it even deserves that moniker) sounded more like the product of a primitive chat-bot written in the haze of a drug binge by a pubescent pervert bouncing between foster homes that couldn't handle her, or perhaps languishing in the care of a state institution for those who had the wrong people touching them earlier in life.  Or maybe even in the care of 'captain red-beard' himself, which might explain a few more things.

Careful Tony, you might get called "son" by some kid that got his first internet boner.

Mike D wrote: Yeah, God forbid that people who clean up after your entitled ass are taken care of. 

Yo brahjiMike, I have a real job that makes real money. And I will wipe my own ass, but I like your scatalogical ideals... I take care of my own needs and wants... you entitled rahjibrahji...

<rant>
You know what's more lonesome than living in a van by the river?
Following this thread...that shit will make a grown man cry.
A buncha losers, myself included.
I'm usually a much better person when I'm outside enjoying nature.
Screw real job and real money. Gimme that natural fakery outside without the web.
</rant>

Igor Chained wrote:
You know what's more lonesome than living in a van by the river?
Following this thread...that shit will make a grown man cry.
A buncha losers, myself included.
I'm usually a much better person when I'm outside enjoying nature.
Screw real job and real money. Gimme that natural fakery outside without the web.

My real job gives me 6.5 months of vacation time a year, plus or minus... I have the BEST life of all... I eat gourmet when climbing... i will even pay a chef to have my scrumptious grub ready when I'm done, if I'm not spending money in a lavish restaurant... 

I can't believe that I thought being a dirtbag was how I wanted to spend my life when I was a baby...

Sheeessh...  friggin dirtbags...