crazy how she felt so guilty for that. if she was at belay but there was nothing she could do...... (she couldn't step back to pick up slack) now help me understand something. if you have an injury and are in pain- why would you continue to climb?
its it because the of the expense of getting to the calaniques, perhaps a gesture to his partner that wasn't hurt, etc? or.... is it more a refusal to admit defeat? some might see the latter as toxic masculinity. but I don't see it as either toxic or in gender terms at all.
I routinely push myself to do things; and so long as I'm not putting myself (or someone else) in danger; its not toxic. --- also, am I just getting us right back into this obviously toxic topic? :( prolly
jason oliphant wrote: crazy how she felt so guilty for that. if she was at belay but there was nothing she could do...... (she couldn't step back to pick up slack) now help me understand something. if you have an injury and are in pain- why would you continue to climb?
its it because the of the expense of getting to the calaniques, perhaps a gesture to his partner that wasn't hurt, etc? or.... is it more a refusal to admit defeat? some might see the latter as toxic masculinity. but I don't see it as either toxic or in gender terms at all.
I routinely push myself to do things; and so long as I'm not putting myself (or someone else) in danger; its not toxic. --- also, am I just getting us right back into this obviously toxic topic? :( prolly
Look Jason, at this point of the thread there is no room for serious responses.
John RB wrote: The recent training video by Jstar, Tommy and Alex reminded me of this thread... Jonathan says Alex "crimps like a kitten." Tommy says Jonathan has no upper arm strength and can't climb roofs. No way would women do a video like this... they would all say positive and empowering things to support each other.
I don't think it's linked to testosterone... it's just a cultural norm we've established.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=618eR-1zdoY
The filmmaker is Tara Kerzhner, who also made Slaydies
OMG. Your trying HARD to troll us chemists, aren't you?
Just sayin' you've written an incredibly incorrect statement about pH. for starters, technically, 6.7 is slightly acidic- not caustic.
I mean, if it's corrosive, it's caustic. Sorry if chemists are a bit tighter with their vocabulary. I don't want to offend, it's just this darn toxic masculinity of mine.
ViperScale . wrote: 7 is the middle of the scale so anything below 7 gets higher acidic and anything over 7 get higher caustic (basic) but generally it would have to be really high / low on the scale to be considered really dangerous 1/2, 13/14.
Hmm, so you're saying that 6.7 isn't perfectly balanced but won't actually hurt you unless you're trying to be hurt? I feel like you are aaaalmost getting my original point.
Good job misinterpreting my post, and coming up with lots of questions based on that. I am not dividing people into specifically labeled groups, I am saying that these groups CURRENTLY exist and people are treated differently based on their perceived belonging in those groups. It would be wonderful if someone's perception of the group you belong to didn't affect how you are treated. But it would be disingenuious to pretend that we are living in that worlds right now.
The whole point of white privilege is that just LOOKING white is enough to give you that privilege. If your friend has white hair and blue eyes, he probably doesn't have to worry so much about a cop stopping him just for walking in a "white" neighborhood. So yes, in this case your Indian friend is enjoying the benefits of white privilege.
He may very well be an outspoken activist for racial equality, a wonderful person, etc. etc. When I say that he is " enjoying" the benefits of white privilege I do not mean that he is consciously taking advantage of it in any way. It simply means that when going for a walk in the evening he is not worried about his skin color as the reason he might be stopped and harassed. When he is driving, he is not getting pulled over any more frequently than any other white guy with the same driving habits as him. He doesn't need to DO anything in order to receive the benefit of looking like white.
If your mixed-race kid looks white, he is getting the same benefits as a white person from his looks. If he doesn't look white, he is getting the short end of the stick.
That's the point of privilege. It is not about who you ARE as a person, it is about the fact that just by virtue of looking white you get to skip some of the unpleasanties that a black person gets for no other reason than his skin color.
I knew a girl in Charlotte, N.C. She was going to nursing school full time, and didn't work. She lived in low income housing. The cops patrolled the area constantly (Was THAT racist?) They would see her blue eyes and red hair and pull her over and ask her if she was there to buy drugs. Constant harassement. Was it racist to pull her over because she didn't look like other people there, or was it racist (On the part of the cops) to assume that was a good neighborhood to buy drugs because the residents were black?
Yep. Masculinity is toxic. Feminity is virtuous. Except in 2017 gender and sex are no longer real things--just social constructs.
So, which is it? "Men=bad, women=good?" OR "gender/sex is not a thing--just something made up by TEH PATRIARCHY?"
Excuse me if I am unable to complete the mental gymnastics routine of contradictory and flawed logic that is required to subscribe to post-modern feminist bullshit.
You sir, are either an epic beta cuck or an epic troll.
You've clearly missed the core concept of what toxic masculinity is
Some of the blame has to be chalked up to gym culture. where Micro-aggressions, Leering people of all walks can not control objectifying & Sexualizing interactions by flirtatious behavior even when the un-wanted interactions lend themselves to normal activity
Also to blame is a culture where there are people who take their anti-depressants daily claiming it is to help to feel less self-conscious, control social anxiety, "feel normal". This "normal" is dependant on a daily dose that then gives them 'cover'; allowing them to think it is okay to walk around less than -covered- Skipping around in skimpy clothes & wearing what once was considered underwear as their go-everywhere cloths. I'm not a prude & not advocating that women wear Burkas. Men are just as guilty of wearing overtly "less is more" more often than not. Wearing things that are Cute, small & tight, clothing, Leggings, spandex sports tops & shorts are perfectly fine for almost everything. Where this becomes an issue is when this sort of new normal( that is perfectly acceptable for daily activities ) bumps into all-day climbing. Add a celebratory beverage after hard physical exercise when the drugs start to wear off, you have potentially created a toxic mix of Femininity
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