Knot for Lead Climbing A Ladder Without Carabiners
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Hi all. |
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Why don't you wear a harness with two runners or two PAS's on it? Then, if a carabiner won't fit around a rung, you could basket or girth hitch each rung with your runner. This way, you are always attached with one runner. No rope necessary. I haven't done via ferrata, but I think that's the general idea. |
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Yeah, I think this is how most people would do this. |
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Why would you "find yourself" with a harness and rope but no slings or carabiners? You can basket hitch a sling around a ladder rung and use a single carabiner on the rope side. |
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All you need to do is take a biner and use them to tie the rope around the rungs not clipping the biner into the rung. Not the best image but maybe it is enough for you to understand the biner is behind the rung and the rope stays on the side you are climbing but is pinched around the rung with the biner. |
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ViperScale . wrote: All you need to do is take a biner and use them to tie the rope around the rungs not clipping the biner into the rung. Not the best image but maybe it is enough for you to understand the biner is behind the rung and the rope stays on the side you are climbing but is pinched around the rung with the biner. Good Man 'Scaley" Please everyone, when responding to a new member, someone who has just joined our little fracas here, to think is this a rock climber or another type-climber. before posting.As a matter of concern The OP has not provided enough info to respond . Is the ladder dead vert? how is it connected? & to what is it connected? and I entice no one to say "it", "It" being the good 'ole YGD, maybe I should ? Back to what Arborists who climb but are not rock climbers, not thinking of the multiplication of forces, that we as climbers who take falls, struggle with but do, understand. . They stay safe, use harnesses & some climbing gear, but avoid the risk of Factor falls, by remaining Top Rope supported, same with widow washers etc. . There are many many you tube videos, as well as Arborists info-blogs as well as High rise and high angle workers info. A ladder has all sorts of funky 'play to it. . . . a loose connection needs to not be forced to take on extra forces, there are a few more - big what ifs - & what thens Then there is the issue of what is the goal? how long is the work going to take? , will you be hanging off this rig? all this makes a case for the fact that it sounds like the OP is a thinking person, it is impressive that he has joined up & asked for help. tape/slings, short pre- tied loops of cord that get girth hitched to the rungs to provide protection , And A Second person to give a belay.......... |
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Fred Dibnah Ladders a Chimney
On a serious note, have you considered a Via Feratta tether with a BIG hook? Climb a bit and attach it to a rung (assuming they're strong enough to hold a fall) to rest, remove to climb again. Using a tether that dissipates energy is critical- if you use a something that doesn't stretch, climb above the rung it's attached to and fall, it could cause severe injury or even break. If you want to rappel from the top, then trail the rope behind you and pull up the rest when you want to come down. Attaching the rope to the ladder as you move up is probably more trouble than it's worth, assuming you're taking a lot of gear with you. You could also tie your tool bag to the rope and haul it up once you arrive at your work area. Be sure anything you connect yourself to is intended to hold a fall. |
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I think the important thing here is to make sure that the ladder is secured. Doesn't matter how easily you can stay attached to the ladder if you ladder falls |
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Dude, if you're going to rob a bank and least cut us in. |
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have a partner put you on belay, then just weave in between the rungs like a tree python. you'll only fall to the last rung you weaved thru. |
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Kyle Elliott wrote: have a partner put you on belay, then just weave in between the rungs like a tree python. you'll only fall to the last rung you weaved thru. Actually you might have something there. As a minor alternative, you basically weave the rope using two tie-in points that you alternate attaching and weaving. Specifically:
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Ģnöfudør Ðrænk wrote: Hmm you know this means everytime he wants to weave a new rung he has the risk of falling right? This would be like rock climbing and everytime you get to a bolt you go off belay and clip the bolt than go back on belay which is stupid and dangerous. |
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Ladders are aid |
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ViperScale . wrote: "Two tie-ins". One is always attached to harness. |
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I can't read my bad. |
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Hey OP, what you describe is a bad idea because every time you fix the rope to the ladder you're now setting yourself up for a factor 2 fall when you go above the knot. This is different from clipping the rope to a carabiner, as in that case the entire rope can stretch to catch your fall, as the rope can move through a carabiner. |
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It's a ladder, dude! Just climb it! |
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Sorry for the delay. The forum says I am making too many posts for a new member. |
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JFC... |