Requesting "Ladies Crag" forum

mediocre wrote:

Ha, well holy shit Eli good news, you are invited. Sooooo.... let me get this straight. There is now a “women’s forum” that men can participate in so everyone feels included? Why call this a women’s forum? 

H- I agree with self policing, but doesn’t a flag on a post just bring the Admins attention to said post? Then the admin can decide whether to delet it or not?

I don't know why he decided to still call it a women's forum, instead of a more general "safe space" forum. And to answer your question, when a post gets flagged, it doesn't go to any admin, it goes specifically to Nick. Nicked mentioned another person in training to be a moderater so I would guess that this person will also see it when a post gets flagged in the future.

eli poss wrote:

It's also not very difficult to get around being "blacklisted" if you are the slightest bit tech savvy. It does take a small bit of effort and some time, which is ideal because it gives good people a good time-out to cool down and reflect. The effort and time required also deters trolls who are probably to lazy to get around it when they can just go troll somewhere else on the internet.

Once again, it's another way of filtering out the trolls and assholes while still allowing other members to continue to contribute to the discussion. 

Edit to add: That was my point. It’s easy to avoid pissing people off.  Intuitive or automaticto most while other takes a small amount of conscious effort.  Let Nick moderate how he pleases. People will figure it out.

Calling it a “safe space” forum just sounds lame.  Users don’t need to be coddled. Sorry. That’s gonnna attract the hyenas imo.  

I'm not willing to wade through 18 pages to see if someone already mentioned this, but I've been involved in online forums since the mid-1990s. The best ones in terms of creating the kind of meaningful, thoughtful and intimate discussion that I think is being sought by women wanting their own forum were all operated by INVITATION ONLY and pruned anyone who didn't positively contribute. I'm a man and don't expect or want to be involved in a women's private space but totally support the concept and understand the reason. So maybe MP has a function or can create one so people can create and manage "by invitation" sub-groups? I'm sure there are other demographics that would also benefit from a discussion space free of trolls.

mediocre wrote:

Ha, well holy shit Eli good news, you are invited. Sooooo.... let me get this straight. There is now a “women’s forum” that men can participate in so everyone feels included? Why call this a women’s forum? 

H- I agree with self policing, but doesn’t a flag on a post just bring the Admins attention to said post? Then the admin can decide whether to delet it or not?

As Eli said, the flags are Nick's burden, and perhaps the new person. It may be though, that the rank and file admins can edit the area information. They might be the logical ones to edit out stupid comments on photos. Dunno.

Best, H.

s.price wrote:

While this contains a grain of truth it is not entirely accurate. On the site I have moderated at for years we have become quite savvy at finding those who try a go around. 

Unless the relevant technology has advanced in the past 5 years, the most a site can do is ban a certain IP address from creating an account. This IP address is relative easy to change and even easier to disguise or cloak. It's pretty easy to find the trolls and ban them once they start posting but there's not a whole lot you can do to prevent them from creating a new account and trolling again. 

s.price wrote:

This is true. But personality typically gives it away. I once had a guy challenge me to prove he could be found by the government on the distillation site after I had warned him it was easy to do. 20 minutes later by email I showed him his front door on Google Maps. Never heard from him again. 

Should have used Tor... dumbass. People never cease to amaze me with their stupidity. 

mediocre wrote:

Ha, well holy shit Eli good news, you are invited. Sooooo.... let me get this straight. There is now a “women’s forum” that men can participate in so everyone feels included? Why call this a women’s forum? 

Fully explained in the preceeding 18 pages.

reboot wrote:

Except this isn't a house, a website will cease to exist in practice (i.e. RC.com) if nobody decides to hang out in it.

There were a number of reasons that led to the effective demise of rc.com. Moderation in the ladies forum wasn't one of them.

Marc801 C wrote:

Fully explained in the preceeding 18 pages.

Yes, except in the preceding 18 pages nothing was final.I believe it was 18 pages of debate. 

Its a wonder youre still single.

Marc801 C wrote:

There were a number of reasons that led to the effective demise of rc.com. Moderation in the ladies forum wasn't one of them.

Of course it wasn't, or the ladies wouldn't ask for it here, but it sure couldn't stand on its own.

mediocre wrote:

Yes, except in the preceding 18 pages nothing was final.I believe it was 18 pages of debate. 

That's not what you asked. You wrote:

Sooooo.... let me get this straight. There is now a “women’s forum” that men can participate in so everyone feels included? Why call this a women’s forum? 

The reason for calling it a "women's forum" instead of something else was covered in that 18 pages of debate.

Its a wonder youre still single.

Where did you get that from? (and no, my MP profile is anything but accurate or correct)

Nick Wilder wrote:

Thanks for the continued discussion and several thoughtful responses to my prior decisions.  I've reconsidered this and created a new forum (and seeded it with a few old things that could belong there):

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/103989406/womens-only-forum

Now that it has been around a bit, I'd reiterate this suggestion from earlier in this thread

MojoMonkey wrote:If this is implemented, I'd suggest consideration of how its contents are displayed. I only browse the forums via the Latest Forum Posts view and rarely look at what sub-forum it comes from so might not notice that I went to a "Ladies Crag" topic. The RC.com counterpart that inspired this suggestion had the topics listed in blue instead of black as a visual indicator in their recent posts list. Maybe a toggle to turn them off like "For Sale / Wanted". Defaulted to off? Or default based on indicated gender in profile if provided? Or just excluded from the latest list and only shown if you specifically go to the sub forum?
That last option might be a pain to those looking to use the forum but prefer to browse via "latest".

I think some others are in the same boat and end up replying to Women's Forum threads without realizing they are from there, just today:

Greg D wrote: Honestly, I did not even know this was the woman’s formum. That is not something I usually look at.