Just leave your dog at home

Leave your dog at home wrote:

Just start by picking up after your dog. [We all know it's really YOUR dog no matter how much you deny it]

If I had a dog you would fucking know it because I would be constantly talking to it, petting it, not caring about you or other snobby climbers, etc 

Heather Whatever wrote:

If I had a dog you would fucking know it because I would be constantly talking to it, petting it, not caring about you or other snobby climbers, etc 

climbing friend,

would you enjoy very much if it licks the butthole of another and/or chews up the random turds, and then "kisses" you on the lips? or if it rubs its taintular region on your bedsheets and attempts to conduct the surveillance or jump onto the bed during your sexy times with your partner?

Aleks Zebastian wrote:

climbing friend,

would you enjoy very much if it licks the butthole of another and/or chews up the random turds, and then "kisses" you on the lips? or if it rubs its taintular region on your bedsheets and attempts to conduct the surveillance or jump onto the bed during your sexy times with your partner?

 FTW

Glad we had this little talk....

RCLee wrote:

"unattended dog tries to charge me as I approach a climb", "I had to kick & punch a dog in the head to avoid getting bit". 

Frankly, anybody who attacked my dog, unless the dog was clearly being seriously aggressive (which would never be the case, but just for example), would get the living shit beat out of him. Just sayin'. . .

RCLee...I was there, the dog was clearly aggressive. Have you ever been to Castelton ? The dog was tied up, quite literally on the trail, to continue to the base of the climb you had to go within biting distance of this dog. The dog also was aggressive towards two other groups of climbers as well.

...and let's be real, you probably wouldn't beat the shit out of anyone without breaking a hip or something old man. Cheers. 

jon bernhard wrote:

There I said it.  Please respect the environment and others.  Leave the dang dog at home.  Or if you can't leave it at home because you need such emotional support, get a therapist and don't get a dog.  

Why?...Because the next time somebodies unattended dog tries to charge me as I approach a climb I will act accordingly to protect myself.  This may lead to injury of someones unattended dog. As an example, just trying to get around a dog at the base of Castleton Tower I had to kick & punch a dog in the head to avoid getting bit.   So don't get all butt hurt because I am using strong language here, mature as a climber and be aware of all users in the area.  

I agree

gspup wrote:

RCLee...I was there, the dog was clearly aggressive. Have you ever been to Castelton ? The dog was tied up, quite literally on the trail, to continue to the base of the climb you had to go within biting distance of this dog. The dog also was aggressive towards two other groups of climbers as well.

...and let's be real, you probably wouldn't beat the shit out of anyone without breaking a hip or something old man. Cheers. 

Exactly,  that's why I don't get in fights anymore.

RCLee wrote:

Says every dog owner ever.

mediocre wrote:

Says every dow owner ever.

Dow?  He cannot be owned,  as he is a full time climber.

Xam wrote:

Dow?  He cannot be owned,  as he is a full time climber.

Damn

Aleks Zebastian wrote:

climbing friend,

would you enjoy very much if it licks the butthole of another and/or chews up the random turds, and then "kisses" you on the lips? or if it rubs its taintular region on your bedsheets and attempts to conduct the surveillance or jump onto the bed during your sexy times with your partner?

Every Aleks Z post is so solid gold.  

gspup wrote:

RCLee...I was there, the dog was clearly aggressive. Have you ever been to Castelton ? The dog was tied up, quite literally on the trail, to continue to the base of the climb you had to go within biting distance of this dog. The dog also was aggressive towards two other groups of climbers as well.

...and let's be real, you probably wouldn't beat the shit out of anyone without breaking a hip or something old man. Cheers. 

That simply wasn't a good idea on the owner's part, but it was no reason for some dog-fearing climber to attack the dog. Did you attack the dog?- I'm guessing no. You found a way around it rather than viciously attacking a tied-up animal. But yes, if someone has an aggressive dog, they should leave it at home. In fact, if someone has a dog that is aggressive in public, they probably shouldn't own a dog, as they obviously don't know how to train one.

With regard to breaking a hip or something- yep, you might be right, but I wouldn't want to be the other person. My dogs are my family.

No.

mediocre wrote:

Says every dog owner ever.

Well, at least those who know how to train dogs. I've owned dogs for more than 50 years, and my father was a dog trainer. No, I don't have randomly aggressive dogs. I probably go out with the dogs into the hills over 200 days per year, and have *never* had an instance where aggression (on the part of my dogs) was an issue. Aggressive toward a home intruder? That's a different matter.

It sounds as if the incident was the result of a inexperienced or simply clueless owner, who put the ill-trained dog in a position where he was uncomfortable. However, there is never any excuse for a person to attack a tied up animal. Other climbers apparently walked by the dog without incident. So, I think some training is in order for the guy who attacked the dog. Most of the incidents that I have witnessed over the years involving human/dog adverse interactions were the result of the humans behaving inappropriately toward the dog.

I have been bit and also my climbing partner by a fellow climber whose dog was so friendly the day before. The dog was a rescue and had a slight foot handicap that bothered him on the second day and he got mean. Bottom line, for every ones safety, leave the dog at home. If people are crazy, animals can be also!

Billcoe wrote:

Every Aleks Z post is so solid gold.  

Agree to disagree.

Bob Terczak wrote:

I have been bit and also my climbing partner by a fellow climber whose dog was so friendly the day before. The dog was a rescue and had a slight foot handicap that bothered him on the second day and he got mean. Bottom line, for every ones safety, leave the dog at home. If people are crazy, animals can be also!

I'm still not sure why this is being blamed on the dog. The owner tied it up in an inappropriate place. It also sounds as if the owner hasn't properly trained the dog. "One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch, bro" (to paraphrase Michael Jackson). The owner is entirely at fault. It was also entirely inappropriate for the climber to viciously attack, for godssake, a tied up dog that can't even run away! So, if everybody behaves, then there really isn't a problem, is there?

Having said all that- this is a reason that I try not to take my dogs to popular places. I just don't want to deal with ill-behaved people and their ill-behaved dogs.

RCLee wrote:

Well, at least those who know how to train dogs. I've owned dogs for more than 50 years, and my father was a dog trainer. 

Were you in the circus?

Beean wrote:

Were you in the circus?

Haha- no, but I've climbed Polar Circus- does that count?