Cordelette knots

Cordelette takes up so much space on harness... You could use a 240cm sling (and an extra quickdraw/30cm sling if needed). Or use the rope for anchor w/ sling to equalize close pieces. If swapping leads and not hanging out at the belay, often the cordelette/sling is just more hassle than it is worth. 

mstolorena wrote:

Cordelette takes up so much space on harness... You could use a 240cm sling (and an extra quickdraw/30cm sling if needed). Or use the rope for anchor w/ sling to equalize close pieces. If swapping leads and not hanging out at the belay, often the cordelette is just more hassle than it is worth. 

Slings are generally thicker than tech cord, so a 240cm sling is going to take up more space on your harness than a 240cm cordalette made of tech cord.

David Kerkeslager wrote:

Slings are generally thicker than tech cord, so a 240cm sling is going to take up more space on your harness than a 240cm cordalette made of tech cord.

I meant to say 240cmx8mm dyneema sling. Have not used tech cord before, but when I fold my 240 dyneema sling over a few times, twist it up tight, pretty darn slim and lightweight. 

Does anyone even use nylon slings anymore?   

Clove hitch to each piece. No knots!

mstolorena wrote:

I meant to say 240cmx8mm dyneema sling. Have not used tech cord before, but when I fold my 240 dyneema sling over a few times, twist it up tight, pretty darn slim and lightweight. 

Does anyone even use nylon slings anymore?   

I was assuming you meant 8mm dyneema sling. My tech cord is 5.9mm and lighter than a 240cm x 8mm dyneema sling.

I'll also note that most people's cordalettes are longer than 240cm. So while your sling might be lighter than a 15ft cordalette, it's not giving you as much.

David Kerkeslager wrote:

I was assuming you meant 8mm dyneema sling. My tech cord is 5.9mm and lighter than a 240cm x 8mm dyneema sling.

You are wrong on the weight:

• 240cm Mammut Contact Sling: 57 g 
• 240cm of 5 mm Tech Cord: 60 g  (+ you need twice as much if you want to tie it in a loop equaling a 240cm sling + the knot)

a standard shoelace knot will do just fine for anchors.

mstolorena wrote:

Does anyone even use nylon slings anymore?   

Guilty as charged.  :-)

Bill Lawry wrote:

Guilty as charged.  :-)

I do too, although I don't buy nylon slings anymore. But I have 1 nylon alpine draw I still use regularly and I always have one or two tied shoulder length slings that I rack onto. The 1" tubular webbing is much more comfy than a skinny dyneema sling, and I can easily leave them as bail gear without putting a even a scratch on my wallet.

23ft of 7mm nylon cord with double fisherman's bend