Answering the American made question

Sorry, my mistake. Moon is UK!

fruitloop wrote: My current moccs and pinks both say made in the usa..

EDIT:

I stand corrected. They are claiming that their ENTIRE climbing shoe division is 100% made in the USA.

David Barbour wrote: Just in case people don't know, you're allowed to say a product is made in the USA even if every individual part is sourced from Asia. You just have to assemble it here. So I'm curious if Black Diamond is actually making the entire thing in SLC.

It is pretty hard to have things made in the USA. 75% of the total cost has to be in the USA in order to claim USA country of origin. BD sources and manufactures stoppers, cam components, carabiner rod stock, carabiner forging, ascender raw material, ascender machining, crampon raw material, and crampon forming in the USA. On top of that all of the product mentioned is all assembled in the USA. Even anodizing is carried out in the SLC valley.

I cant believe Omega Pacific hasn't made it on this list yet. OPs factory in in Oregon and most of the workers are inmates. Sounds sketchy but its actually a pretty rad program. Inmates are given a job, they are paid the same as if they were hired from off the street, when they are released from prison they can choose to stay on with OP. I think its pretty cool, inmates are given something positive and constructive to do while incarcerated, having a job already established when they get out may help with keeping them from becoming repeat offenders. I wonder if omega has ever released statistics on the program.

And "Black Diamond China" so I am pretty sure that the majority is all made here.

Seth Kane wrote:you're missing five ten as well.

Not %100...even on the "made in USA" shoes. The laws that surround "made in USA" are a little weird.

That being said I won't stop buying them.

Yes, Made in the USA legally means "all or virtually all" materials and manufacturing is from the US. Many companies import some materials thus the "built in" or "assembled in" or "Made in the USA with foreign and domestic parts." I appreciate any companies sincere effort to keep their American employees employed, though even more if it's "made in the USA."

David Rivers 1 wrote:Manzella fleece Leadville, CO

Melanzana

And they're the best hoodie/base layer out there.

In response: Omega Pacific has been listed on americangearguide.com from the get go. Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I'll be sure to add the ones I'm missing.

It does seem a bit hit or miss with some companies especially some of the big guys like Woolrich, or Carhartt who have a few items made in the USA but toot a big American made horn. I suppose the only way to let people know you value American made things is with your spending.

In response to Aleks Zebastian asking about the cost of American made gear being alot higher. That's a common misperception but not true. For example, Tarptent's Double Rainbow is around $289 but is arguably better (I reviewed it) than most big name foreign made tents costing more. Other examples are Princeton Tec for headlamps, flashlights and such. Danner Crater Rims are comparable to European brand boots like La Sportiva Glaciers or Zamberlans, etc. Kershaw, Buck, Gerber and many more for low priced high quality knives. Western Mountaineering and Feathered Friends doesn't cost more than comparable overseas made sleeping bags. Cilogear, ULA, HMG and many more American backpack makers are often less expensive than Arcteryx for similar or higher quality. Jackson Kayaks competes at the same prices as everyone else. You can find examples like this in every category. I'd like many corporations to stop making excuses that they must ship jobs overseas to compete. I'd like people to understand Americans livelihoods are more important than padding executive profits.

Ha, sorry Russ I just caught myself as you were posting and edited my post.
You're correct.

http://kendaljacksonbags.com/

Hand made in Florida. USA

Thanks, Melanzana and Kendal Jackson Bags have been added. Keep em coming

Just to update this thread, I've recently created a best American made climbing gear article on my site AmericanGearGuide.com . Hopefully this is helpful for those searching for gear made in the USA.

Metolius cams unless something has changed 

Mountain tools. Great site, much made by the site owners (for 30 years), excellent quality, etc. Made in California, and although you might argue that California is not really America, well, there it is.

https://www.mtntools.com/

(Check out the web-o-let).

A correction about Metolius on the website--Metolius makes all safety rated products--that's carabiners, nuts, cams, hexes, harnesses--in their factory in Bend, OR. I was there in April, this is straight from them. Their packs, bags, and holds however, are made overseas. 

Robin S wrote:

A correction about Metolius on the website--Metolius makes all safety rated products--that's carabiners, nuts, cams, hexes, harnesses--in their factory in Bend, OR. I was there in April, this is straight from them. Their packs, bags, and holds however, are made overseas. 

Metilous biners are made in taiwan

Robin S, my understanding was that Metolius cams were made in the US but little else. I just emailed them, so hopefully we'll find out soon. That would be awesome if they brought more manufacturing to the US.

Thank you, Matt! 

I received an email from Metolius including a spreadsheet showing the origin of all their products. Looks like you're mostly right Robin S! I don't understand why they don't make any mention of it on their site (except for the Patriot Harness). 

According to the spreadsheet: Metolius nuts, cams, hexes, harnesses and a few of their slings are built in the USA. It looks like their carabiners are made in Taiwan. I'm especially excited about their harnesses. I love my Misty Mountain harness but it's nice to know there's another big player in US made harnesses.

All right, now out to enjoy the beautiful day.

Why are American jobs more sacred then Chinese jobs? Are Americans somehow "better" then Chinese people?

The same for Malasian, Spanish, Vietnamese, Indian, British, Slovakian, etc etc