Ashima GriGri Fall

don'tchuffonme wrote:Anyone that drops someone DOES NOT BELONG BELAYING. Period.

Well that would eliminate a swath of climbers right off the bat. Dropping wasn't tolerated in the past, but these days it's like auto accidents and driving - just a cost of doing business that happens to other people.

Healyje wrote: Well that would eliminate a swath of climbers right off the bat.

Good. They should be fucking eliminated. If you can't perform one of the most basic skills that involves only manipulating a rudimentary device through simple movements that are easily understandable, then you're worthless as one half of the climbing/belaying equation. And why then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that you'd also eventually mangle yourself on the sharp end as well if you're that incompetent?

It has become common, and it's sad. Everything is being dumbed down though, so I can't say that I'm surprised. We're just so pissed about it because it happens to be ruining one of our favorite activities.

All belayers need to start tying safety knot as soon as their climber is over 10ft off the ground. That way even if they completely screw up the person won't deck! Maybe even tie in another knot every 20-30ft and that way it will be even safer.

ViperScale wrote:All belayers need to start tying safety knot as soon as their climber is over 10ft off the ground. That way even if they completely screw up the person won't deck! Maybe even tie in another knot every 20-30ft and that way it will be even safer.

What in the total fuck are you even talking about? Tie a knot where? How will the knot pass through the draws? How will a knot pass through the belay device? I think you have a knot on your head perhaps.

don'tchuffonme wrote: What in the total fuck are you even talking about? Tie a knot where? How will the knot pass through the draws? How will a knot pass through the belay device? I think you have a knot on your head perhaps.

Well I guess untie I mean. Start with a ton of knots like when u rope solo and untie them as they go up. Sorry completely stated all that wrong in the first post... was distracted.

Well in any belay device you ere not supposed to take your hand off the brake side of the rope, so Gri Gri or not she will fall anyway...

Many, many people as today still not have a clue how to use a Gry Gry, there is only one way to use it and is written in the package instruction when you buy it, if is use properly it want fail. Top sport climbers use it, Chris Sharma, Adam Ondra, And + there is many videos on YouTube that tell you exactly how to use it. If anyone have a Gri Gri please make sure you know your shit. And I want call this post Ashima Gri Gri fail, but Ashima Father fail.

Walter Galli wrote:Many, many people as today still not have a clue how to use a Gry Gry, there is only one way to use it and is written in the package instruction when you buy it, if is use properly it want fail. Top sport climbers use it, Chris Sharma, Adam Ondra, And + there is many videos on YouTube that tell you exactly how to use it. If anyone have a Gri Gri please make sure you know your shit. And I want call this post Ashima Gri Gri fail, but Ashima Father fail.

If we followed your (worthless) advice the instructions would still show the "old" way, in fact if you followed the instructions from my first GriGri you and the internet experts would probably be horified. It is the inventiveness of climbers which allow gear manufacturers to modify their instructions when better practices become known:- GriGri, Trango Cinch etc etc.

Jim Titt wrote: If we followed your (worthless) advice the instructions would still show the "old" way, in fact if you followed the instructions from my first GriGri you and the internet experts would probably be horified. It is the inventiveness of climbers which allow gear manufacturers to modify their instructions when better practices become known:- GriGri, Trango Cinch etc etc.

Here comes the pro,,,,