Smallest biner
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looking for a biner to fit the hole in The spike at the bottom of the new Cassin x-dream alpine handle. tried the metolius fs mini and camp nano, no go. Can you guys think about any other that would be smaller ?! ( i know there's an other clipping hole in the handle... That's not want i wanna discuss here ) |
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The camp Nano or Metolius fs mini would be the smallest full strength biners on the market. Anything smaller wouldn't be fully rated. They make smaller biner rated around 700-800 lbs though. Basically a beefed up Keychain biner. What about tying in with cord? |
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No full strength biner that I have ever heard of will do it. |
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I do a lot of harder free solo and i would like to be able to quickly clip in ( with a personal protection sling) in case of emergency. Cord or sling would bot work because i use that spike quite a bit and it would just get mangled . So bottom line is i need something to hold mody weight and not a fall ... Also tried the small petzl Ange. Most of the time its the nose that are to phat. |
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Theriault wrote:I do a lot of harder free soloI know y'all dry toolers like to use that phrase, but that ain't free soloing in my book, not when you got tools (especially w/ the option you are describing) ;) But if that's all you need, why not just use fifi hooks? |
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Maillon? |
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^^^ Exactly what I was thinking, a quick link. |
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Quick link will not go in that fast, and i dont wanna leave it there since i use the spike in piolet mode . |
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DMM XSRE is rated for 4kn but is explicitly an accessory biner |
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Theriault wrote:At reboot ... What are you talking about ?! You are not at all on the subjectFirst of all, there isn't a rule on MP that says my reply has to be on subject... Second of all, how is my recommendation of fifi hooks not on subject??? A fifi hook is precisely for quick clip in to hang body weight off of. Read the MIXED AND ICE CLIMBING section of this link (which has a more versatile recommendation) before you kill yourself... |
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Is there any room to file/elongate the hole so you can fit a nano? |
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+1 to what reboot said. I've used that same system and it works better/ more efficiently than any biner I can think of. |
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You guys mean a fifi hook in the hole? I thought you meant to use it on the ice.... I see where you guys are going now, i like it ! How small are the smallest ones out there? |
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Sdm1568 wrote:Is there any room to file/elongate the hole so you can fit a nano?No, metal is pretty thin already |
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I am thinking about having a loop of webbing put through the handle hole and bar tacked. Full-strength and very low profile, so it won't get in the way of my hand. It will probably get beat up in piolet canne mode, so I think it will need to be replaced every season. Luckily I live 4-5 blocks away from a gear repair shop with a bartacker, so I can walk over and have a new loop sewn in for $3. |
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Found exactly what i wanted, more to follow haha |
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Much better solution below if you have the non-spike version of the x-dreams. 10 minutes with a drill and a steady hand and you can get a full strength cord clip-in point which conveniently doesn't interfere with use of the tools. Would be awesome if Cassin had these holes already molded in, but it's pretty easy to DIY. Blah blah disclaimer blah. |
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Damn that's slick! I know what I'm doing this weekend. |
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Good call but the point here was to be able to use the spike, also, the handles fall a part at the pinky rest quite often ( 4 handles in two years for me ) and im pretty sure this will void the warrenty |
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I've used 5/64 coated stainless Aircraft cable with a swage, stays open to clip, pretty strong if swaged properly. |