Way to go!!!

Roadside Crag is now closed.

See what happens when you don't fix what you screw up? Yes, some climbers REALLY screwed this one up.

Roadside Crag

This sucks - what the hell happened?

I often go this way to my house in Conifer and have been eye-ing this crag for some time - but it looks hard so haven't made any attempts here - YET...

Guess I won't get a chance to climb it now...

This is a real bummer. I got kicked off this crag a long time ago because it was private property. I only recently became aware that the owner seems to have been tolerating climbers. So I was itching to try this spot again. It's got some really good climbs for such a tiny bit of rock.

Dang it.

When this initial firestorm dies down, if the landowner comes to the table, I'm more than willing to share/show what climbers have done for Eldorado. Bottom line: this place is better off with climbers than without.

A few climbers suck, but a lot of climbers are amazing stewards.

Sorry you are paying the price for some of the former.

Mike McHugh wrote:When this initial firestorm dies down, if the landowner comes to the table, I'm more than willing to share/show what climbers have done for Eldorado. Bottom line: this place is better off with climbers than without. A few climbers suck, but a lot of climbers are amazing stewards. Sorry you are paying the price for some of the former.

I think the #s of sucky climbers are growing faster than you think. They come from the gyms and have only seen videos of the outside. Then they move to CO.

Basically if you name something "Roadside Crag" it's gonna close.

The Original closed Roadside Crag... the "Flagship" of the RRG

Anyhow I don't know why everyone thinks it's such a positive thing to encourage young people or non-climbers to climb, when more people = more rules & more closures.

Thank goodness climbing didn't make it to the olympics.

Mike McHugh wrote:When this initial firestorm dies down, if the landowner comes to the table, I'm more than willing to share/show what climbers have done for Eldorado. Bottom line: this place is better off with climbers than without. A few climbers suck, but a lot of climbers are amazing stewards. Sorry you are paying the price for some of the former.

I find this comment to be rather interesting:

"this place is better off with climbers than without"

Care to explain?

Well at least no one stole the fixed draws.

s.price wrote:Follow through is important when introducing new people to this glorious passion. Teaching them to be excellent stewards of all lands and to be credible and responsible humans is key. And pretty simple.

+1 s.price
(s) short for Sage?

Allen Sanderson wrote: I find this comment to be rather interesting: "this place is better off with climbers than without" Care to explain?

Yeah, definitely not buying that. Climbers add all kinds of wonderful things to an area like trash, noise, bolts and poorly constructed trails!

He's talking about Eldo. And if you saw what happens to creeks close to the Front Range cities on weekends you'd understand.

As to the OP, it was local juveniles. Someone tried to pull down a cottonwood tree b/c of the swing factor; and then left the botched tree murder laying in the way of everything. And then the heavily chalked holds, tape, FECKING CIGARETTE BUTTS, and just general urban-style disrespect cost us this crag. It sounded like they tolerated the climbing until the assholes showed up. Punk bitches.

Caprinae monkey wrote:Basically if you name something "Roadside Crag" it's gonna close.

Funny you should say that, when I first read this I thought, 'well someone is a few years behind on current events'.

Huh. Usually the projoscenti just ignore constructive, if cryptic, comments.

Legs, my offer stands.

Rest 'o ya:

Climbers are absolutely critical to the stewardship programs at Eldo. By way of example, consider the work that happened this spring on the Wind Tower and Hawk-Eagle trails:

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Beautiful trails, invasive species management, creek cleanups, chalk cleanups (seen the roof routes lately?), adopt-a-crags, fixed hardware replacement, trundles, a KICK ASS professional trail crew entirely funded by and comprised of climbers, wag-bag stations, ... The level of positive action in the climbing community right now is incredible.

Eldorado Canyon is in great shape, in large part, because of the contributions* of climbers. Without climbers, Eldo's stewardship programs would be greatly diminished.

* if a special few climbers would stop "contributing" rope-end tape, cigarette butts, clif-bar wrappers, and such to the trails, that would be nice.

Cool Mike. We will give it some time. Thank you.

It appears that the property changed hands in February 2013. This might be another reason for the change in demeanor experienced recently, though I have no doubt that the increased visible impacts played a role as well.