Rappel accident - LCC, Utah
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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54942561-78/climber-canyon-cottonwood-mountain.html.csp |
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Simul rapping can be expeditious but vigilance must rule the day. Hope both parties fully recover. |
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jeeze |
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Anant, |
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Which route were you guys descending? An anchor check is in order without a doubt. |
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anant wrote:I was the 23 yesr old involved in the accident. We are still not sure what happened. My friend and i were still hooked onto the rope after we fell because i had knotted the ends. All i remember is him just falling really fast and hitting the ground and then i fell as a result. I have simul rappeled several times before i still do not know what went wrong or what i should do different im the future. He fell first while your rope was tight, then you fell after he hit the ground? |
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I'm sorry to hear about your accident. I'm guessing that the ends of the rope, knots and all, were on the ground. From your description, its seems likely that the first person lost control of the rope/belay device and hit the ground, after which the rope continued to pull through the device, thereby causing the second person to hit the ground. |
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Sounds like Worthy Whoopsie. Glad to hear you guys are okay. |
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Sucks dude. One reason I don't rope climb often is my fear that my partner will make a mistake or even worse, I will. Hope you both recover physically and mentally soon. |
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"Sucks dude. One reason I don't rope climb often is my fear that my partner will make a mistake or even worse, I will." |
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sfotex wrote: Prussic backups on a simu rappel can add some safety. Were you rapping on one rope two? You would use an auto block not a prusik but you had better have it dialed in if rapping single strand as the number of raps/lenght/friction needs to be just right. Of course if you don't extend your rap device you can get it sucked in and cause a mess, plus if your partner isn't using one it doesn't help at all. The safest way to do a simul rap, if you must,is to connect yourself to your partner with a long sling, that way neither of you gets away from the other no matter what happens. |
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rging wrote: The safest way to do a simul rap, if you must,is to connect yourself to your partner with a long sling, that way neither of you gets away from the other no matter what happens. If one person lost control, you would still both fall. |
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Guy- Not saying it's a rational fear, just that I don't like the idea that if I screw up it could affect someone else. And yeah, you would never catch me doing a simul-rappel unless there was a volcano spewing lava right above us and we had to both get off the summit at the same time. |
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This is a good reason not to simulrappel. No thanks. Unless you are rappelling a 25 pitch route in a day, there is no point. And as you said, you have no idea what your partner did wrong. Who needs that? |
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CJC wrote:I don't see the point either unless they couldn't decide who should go first It's much faster, esp. with double ropes. The whole near-death part definitively detracts from it though. I've come to hate it and pretty much refuse to do it. |
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sfotex wrote:Anant, How is your friend doing? Prussic backups on a simu rappel can add some safety. Were you rapping on one rope two? prussik backups on EVERY rappel adds safety. |
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Stich wrote:This is a good reason not to simulrappel. No thanks. Unless you are rappelling a 25 pitch route in a day, there is no point. And as you said, you have no idea what your partner did wrong. Who needs that? or just have a clue what you're doing. |
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You might want to have a clue what the potential costs are vs. benefits. |
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M Sprague wrote: If one person lost control, you would still both fall. Nope |
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rging wrote: You would use an auto block not a prusik Any properly tied friction hitch works. It is personal preference. |
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rging wrote: Nope Depends... on whether or not there is a knot, and which side of the "rings" it's on in relation to the one who loses controll -assuming it jams in the anchor. |




