American Fork DUI Checkpoint

Morgan Patterson wrote: Ya - If u got an Iphone or another smart phone it wouldn't hurt to whip it out and start video recording the process.

unless you are in New Haven, then they will take your phone and arrest you...

I tried "I do not consent to search." Cop said: I've got probable cause, hands on the hood. That was in Las Vegas. It all worked out luckily.

fair weather climber wrote: unless you are in New Haven, then they will take your phone and arrest you...

Whoa really? For what? I mean New Haven is about as corrupt as they come... Jimmy Morrison "Blood in the streets of New Haven." Bridgeport is talking about re-instating the curfew I heard...

I'm pretty sure recording an officer in Illinois is a felony

Jake Jones wrote: 2 things come to mind. Cops, and fascism.

During the 'Red Scare' Americans were disgusted with the U.S.S.R checkpoints. Oh, the irony!

Most people simply talk too much during an encounter with police. Be polite, stick to your point of not consenting to BS searches. In the event they violate your rights anyway, and do find something, shrug it off. In many cases, a dope charge will be thrown out when it's evident to the court that it was an illegal search, void of any “specific and articulable facts" when the search was conducted. Furthermore, file a written complaint to the agency and its parent agency.

Noteworthy, most of the funding for these checkpoints comes from grants from the state Office of Traffic Safety and the National Highway Safety Administration and increasingly from your Department of Homeland Security.

I could go on and on about this subject....

Anyway, standing up for our rights takes some courage. The use of bullying, coercion or other questionable tactics by some LEOs is definitely a hard thing to manage. But capitulation can only lead to the further erosion of our rights as citizens of the United States of America and eventually put all of us in a regretful position of realizing we allowed this to happen to our society in the first place.

Adam Stackhouse wrote:Most people simply talk too much during an encounter with police. Be polite, stick to your point of not consenting to BS searches. In the event they violate your rights anyway, and do find something, shrug it off. In many cases, a dope charge will be thrown out when it's evident to the court that it was an illegal search, void of any “specific and articulable facts" when the search was conducted. Furthermore, file a written complaint to the agency and its parent agency. Noteworthy, most of the funding for these checkpoints comes from grants from the state Office of Traffic Safety and the National Highway Safety Administration and increasingly from your Department of Homeland Security. I could go on and on about this subject.... Anyway, standing up for our rights takes some courage. The use of bullying, coercion or other questionable tactics by some LEOs is definitely a hard thing to manage. But capitulation can only lead to the further erosion of our rights as citizens of the United States of America and eventually put all of us in a regretful position of realizing we allowed this to happen to our society in the first place.

+1

We've already passed the point of no return I thinks.

Oh well, lets climb rockz

For what it's worth;

ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/law…

So here is my shitty cop story:

It was a Saturday morning and it was raining. I was on my way to get some breakfast. on my way I rolled through a cross walk ( no light or intersection, just in the middle of the street at a common crossing area) as I did this I saw someone on the opposite side of the street STEP into the crosswalk a full 10 feet away from my car ( this person was no where near my car)upon rolling through the cross walk at mild speed as I was approching a stop light a cop came right up on my ass and pulled me over. He came to the car window and said the usual. He then asked if I had been drinking. I answerd honistly and said yes the night befor a full 15 hours prior. He then asked me to step out of the car a wait for another cop to come ( mind you it is raining) I had no jacket or umbrella ( I was planning to go to a drive through and would not need a rain coat, however the cops did) When the other cop showed up he gave me the feild test and I passed. Then and only then did they give me the breathalizer which I also passed. After 30 min. in the poring rain they decided I must be on something and wanted to search the car. I said no. Then they looked into my small hatchback and saw all of my outdoor gear ( I was living between two apartments and it was jus easier to carry all my gear with me all the time) Tehy tought surly i must have something. They got all my gear soked and found nothing because guess what having tons of shit in your car MUST be reasonable cause. All said and done I was outside in the rain for more than an hour and got a ticket for failure to yeild to a pedestrian in a cross walk ( which I don't even feel I did ) and payed a $100 ticket. Bottom line cops do what they want and it sucks.

Nope asked the judge, he said if they have probable cause( which I still don't know how they got that) My property is not their responsibility. On the bright side it gave me an excuse to tell the wife i need some new gear. Not all of it but some. The real problem is the police of the police don't do a whole lot of policing.

Honestly the only time cops are great is when there is an emergency (ie the Aurora shooting). The rest of the time they pass the time by harrassing the citizens they should be protecting.

Dam dood, it sucks that they aloud all your geer to get soked.

Jake, plees fallow rul one.

Jeremy Hand wrote:Dam dood, it sucks that they aloud all your geer to get soked. Jake, plees fallow rul one.

hahaha!!! Both you guy's subtleties are hilarious!!

Here you go...this is what you do.

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JB

Not just in uptight Utah...

denverpost.com/opinion/ci_2…

Beware the evil monkeys!

DAMN! I thought it was bad in the SE. Remind me not to travel through NV when I'm out west.

Why'd that guy delete his post?

Sounds like these checkpoints are out of control out West. I can't even recall the last time I saw one... though I know they do do them and they have to publish them in the paper when they are going to ahead of time.

kBobby wrote: That is why our civil liberties are slowly eroding.

Eric Coffman wrote: I agree with KBobby I have read your posts a number of times Taylor Ogden and you seem to be on top of your game but if people like you dont stand up for your rights who will?

It's not that I'm unwilling to stand up for my rights. If I felt like my rights were being violated, you bet I would make fuss over it. However, in general, I'd try not to let a cop pulling me over ruin my day. I'd try to be polite, courteous, and do whatever I could in order to get on my way as soon as possible.

If a cop politely asked me if he could look in my car, I'd probably shrug my shoulders and say, "Sure whatever. You're only going to find old Wendy's wrappers and an ugly christmas sweater." Just so I could get back on the road as quickly as possible. (Although in my trunk I do have a traffic cone stamped "City of Oakland" that I "acquired" while on vacation... I wonder if I'd get in trouble for that...)

Now if the cop was being a total dick, giving me a hard time, and accusing me of things without proof, you'd better believe I'd tell him he couldn't search my car.

Anyway, to each their own. I generally try to keep a positive attitude towards police officers. Most of our country runs on the principal of "innocent until proven guilty" but it seems to me that a lot of people think "all cops are corrupt assholes until proven innocent."

Oh and someone mentioned something about DUI checks at all Utah borders? Really? How gullible are you people?

Taylor Ogden wrote: Oh and someone mentioned something about DUI checks at all Utah borders?

I hear that if you have a green plate, they're making you go through TSA style security and dismantling your car at the border. Then they hand you a phillips head and tell you good luck putting it back together. Sorry, 'rado. We'd love to share the Creek, but I guess the guvment has a different idea.