East vs. West, who is more uptight?

Choss Chasin' wrote:This is simple. Find out where the majority of people from Mountain Project live and you will have your answer! =)

+1,000,000

Austin, quit being an easy target. Everyone else, stop taking pot shots at him.

You people need to chill out.

Anyone who has ever worked at a job that requires nation-wide cold calling knows that the West Coast is much less uptight.

Man, the midwest just can't get no love around here!

Call that Bratwurst a hot dog and watch the sparks fly. And if you refuse the offered lutefisk...run and hide my friends, run and hide.

Will S wrote:Man, the midwest just can't get no love around here! Call that Bratwurst a hot dog and watch the sparks fly. And if you refuse the offered lutefisk...run and hide my friends, run and hide.

First of all, the Midwest rocks. Wisconsin alone has fantastic written all over it. How can a state with soooo much beer be uptight? The Minnesota comment is right on though, but can you blame them? So close to amazing like that? Thats rough. And lutefisk is disgusting, but I haven't heard of any one eating that besides christmas time to please great grandparents.

Second, more with the op, the people I met in Colorado were the friendliest people I've ever met, whereas all the coasties I've met in Madison aren't exactly pleasant.

Ryan Williams wrote: I'm not sure it ever got talked about online but it happened at the Red, I think at "The Lode." Sorry, I just can't call it that w/o the quotes. Story I heard was that some "non-local" was spending too much time on said sucker punch guy's project at the Madness Cave and they had a bitch fight about it. Then later in the day, self-proclaimed "RRG Local" goes up and punches the other dude in the back of the head. I wasn't so interested until I found out who the puncher was... and when I did I laughed for half and hour and sent him a Facebook post about it just to make sure it was out in public. He's a friend but that doesn't mean I think it's OK to go around hitting people in the back of the head! camhead was there, he's the one who told me about the punch. And since he's friends w/ the OP and has a really cool and laid back family in UT but spends most of his time living in the midwest and climbing in the east I'm sure he'll have a lot to say about all topics in this thread, including Mormon bashing. Sorry to put you on the spot camhead, but your opinions are wanted!

1. I was not at the legendary sucker punch incident, but I have a friend who was, and kind of got caught in the middle of it. When I see him and his family this fall, I'll ask him about it, and then get back to fill in Mike Anderson on the details.

2. It is well-established that non-Mormons are not allowed to make fun of Mormons. However, since I am an oxymormon and Austin Baird is from Provo (the most uptight place in Utah), I will mock him. It is funny that he instantly brought up the Jewish oppression analogy, since Mormons have long tried to pull that card whenever they get picked on (most recently with the prop. 8 debacle). In fact, up until about 20 years ago, Mormon missionaries were instructed to find "common ground" with Jews about their shared oppressive histories (a few dozen Mormons killed in 1830s Missouri TOTALLY is on the same level as the Holocaust, right?). This is even funnier, since Mormons believe (figuratively nowdays, literally in the past) that they are literal-blooded Western Hemisphere counterparts of Israelites. So yeah, it's a very silly religion that deserves mocking.

3. Finally, in order of uptightedness, from most to least, it goes: Northeasterners, Boulderites, Californians, Southerners, Canadians.

camhead wrote: It is well-established that non-Mormons are not allowed to make fun of Mormons. However, since I am an oxymormon and Austin Baird is from Provo (the most uptight place in Utah), I will mock him. It is funny that he instantly brought up the Jewish oppression analogy, since Mormons have long tried to pull that card whenever they get picked on (most recently with the prop. 8 debacle). In fact, up until about 20 years ago, Mormon missionaries were instructed to find "common ground" with Jews about their shared oppressive histories (a few dozen Mormons killed in 1830s Missouri TOTALLY is on the same level as the Holocaust, right?). This is even funnier, since Mormons believe (figuratively nowdays, literally in the past) that they are literal-blooded Western Hemisphere counterparts of Israelites. So yeah, it's a very silly religion that deserves mocking.

I knew you would have something interesting to say. Sorry for putting you at a place you were not though. I recently found out a few things that I didn't know prior to bringing the punch up in this thread... guess the joke's on me on that one :)

Having lived in Utard for over 40 years, I'd say a big majority of Mormons are so uptight they shit pebbles. Look at Taylor "hey, you’re hitting close to home, knock it off". One small example.

A great one is the other day I was at a public swimming pool. There was 16 or 17 year old girl who walked by in a bikini. I overheard the Mom in back of me tell all 8 (no shit) of her kids "she is dressed SO inappropriately". I am like, lady it's 94 degrees out. Sorry her rack will always look better than yours. Mormons also have a hard time living what they preach, especially the 'love thy neighbor'. They love thy neighbor alright. You just have to know the secret handshake and believe the same crap they do. I find it hard to believe so many people follow this religion. If half of them knew the truth about their founding Prophet I wonder who many would believe. The guy was chased out of Illinois & Missouri for claiming to have a stone and stick that would tell him where water was. He'd show up to your land, take your $$, do a chant and a dance and say "dig here". After he scammed who knows how many people they chased him out of the states.

Don't get me started on Polygamy. You know how ol’ Joseph Smith started that? Well "god" came to him one night and said take more than one wife. Little does the Mormon general public know, he just moved into a farmhouse and was "smitten" be the neighbors teenage daughter. Guess who Joseph took as his new bride? Yeah, not hard to figure that out. And what kind of logical person would believe the same guy claiming to be a "voice of God", as he looks into a hat, with a "special seeing glass" and translates the Golden Plates, which have NEVER been seen. I could go on...Mormonism in Utah is very funny and frustrating at the same time. Though the general public is about a good 50/50 mix right now. They still control a big part of our local government. Doesn't hurt that the Bishop tells you what the "church leaders" believe around election time. end rant.

johnL wrote:Reasons I may be wrong 1. Boulder Insert your opinion in my curiosity hole.

Why is Boulder considered west? Seems closer to the middle of the country to me . . .

I used to go stay w/ my friend in SLC to ride at the Bird. One night he and his GIRLFRIEND (both Mormons) came home and caught me watching Wedding Crashers. The girl demanded that I turn it off because she "didn't watch movies with that kind of subject matter." A few hours later they went upstairs and fucked while I watched the movie anyways.

well as a rumney local i think its funny we could be called up tight, we are a very welcoming, friendly group of climbers for the most part...
but i think much of the climbing community take them selves too seriously all across the country... lets all decide to relax...

Uptight has an interesting history, having traversed a spectrum of meanings from one pole to its opposite. Everyone is therefore free to situate themselves wherever they please in terms of meaning.

Which suggests that, perhaps, no two people are actually discussing the same thing here?

Not that this would be all that unusual nowadays for any type of public discourse.

rgold wrote:Uptight has an interesting history, having traversed a spectrum of meanings from one pole to its opposite. Everyone is therefore free to situate themselves wherever they please in terms of meaning. Which suggests that, perhaps, no two people are actually discussing the same thing here? Not that this would be all that unusual nowadays for any type of public discourse.

Slang sense of "tense" is from 1934; that of "straight-laced" first recorded 1969. It was used in a sense of "excellent" in jazz slang c.1962.

I think the jazz slang was a temporary footnote more than anything, so I really doubt there's any equivocation going on in here.

In general or just in the climbing community? I think all climbers for the most part are cool... if we're talking in general the east coast for sure. Bunch of assholes around here. The west is way more chill and that is why I will be there soon!

Equivocation would require the knowledge of multiple meanings...

Here's Stevie Wonder's take, circa 1966, a bit more mainstream than "jazz slang" might suggest:

youtube.com/watch?v=otJsDVC…

Nick Mardirosian wrote:if we're talking in general the east coast for sure. Bunch of assholes around here.

Hey, speak for yourself. Chicago is not the East Coast.

lee hansche wrote:well as a Rumney local i think its funny we could be called up tight, we are a very welcoming, friendly group of climbers for the most part... but i think much of the climbing community take them selves too seriously all across the country... lets all decide to relax...

Lee...You live in Goffstown (Manchester, NH) so repin' as a "local" would be inaccurate..just calling you out. Why don't I preface my opinions by saying...I live in Plymouth, NH and as a North Conway local....(Just saying)And Yes...the climbers here are super nice but East Coast is still uptight and often about the dumbest shit...like "low ball bouldering" and
how it's not legitimate but 20ft "trad" lines are..huh!?

So to be a Rumney local you have to live in the town of Rumney? "Local" can also refer to the region, not just the town.

Mike C. Robinson wrote: Lee...You live in Goffstown (Manchester, NH) so repin' as a "local" would be inaccurate..just calling you out. Why don't I preface my opinions by saying...I live in Plymouth, NH and as a North Conway local....(Just saying)And Yes...the climbers here are super nice but East Coast is still uptight and often about the dumbest shit...like "low ball bouldering" and how it's not legitimate but 20ft "trad" lines are..huh!?

1) Trying to say Lee is not a local is just stupid.
2) The low ball bouldering thread was just silly.
3) Decking from 20 feet is just painful.

dolgio wrote: Hey, speak for yourself. Chicago is not the East Coast.

according to the original poster it is as we're east of the mississippi fuckface. =)

(the last part was added to prove the uptight assholeness of Chicagoans)

Nick Mardirosian wrote: according to the original poster it is as we're east of the mississippi fuckface. =) (the last part was added to prove the uptight assholeness of Chicagoans)

And in reality it should be east or west of the Missouri River as well. Partly because they got it wrong in the first place. But when you are there in South Dakota the difference between east river and west river is like night and day.