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Chase Roskos
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Jul 14, 2011
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Golden, CO
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 90
Melanzana makes some great outdoor clothing right here in Leadville, CO.
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Zach Pickard
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Jul 14, 2011
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Riverside, California
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 30
Fun fact. If every american stopped purchasing chinese made products for 1 month we would cut into chinas annual profit by 5%. As it is now china owns america. The point of buying american made products is to further stimulate the currently failing american economy. Get on the band wagon and help be apart of the solution to the problem, instead apart of it
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Lauren Fallsoffrocks
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Jul 14, 2011
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A beach with climbing
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 333
I hate to rain on the "made in america" parade, but I'd like to point out a few things. A global economy is the reality we live in and we participate in a free market economy in our country. The purpose of business is to make money. If it were anything else it would be charity. There is a place for that, but it's not business. It generally costs more to produce goods here than in developing countries, therefore it is better for businesses to produce their wares in other countries and pay for shipping. This is the reality that we live in. Until we face that reality and figure out how to encourage businesses to spend their money at home and still do good business, stuff is going to be expensive. IMO just buy what you can afford and be your own judge. Now I'm stoked! I'm off to buy the super-light Marmot Kompressor backpack and I don't care where it's made because it's the lightest thing on the market for a summit pack.
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bearbreeder
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Jul 14, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
bull canada goose and westcomb are just 2 examples of companies producing top notch gear in canada at prices that are comparable to a certain "canadian" outdoor clothing manufacturer makes the majority of their clothing overseas now the one thats named after a dead bird i prefer to support companies that produce locally if im paying yuppie prices ... not pay $$$$ for some jacket that is made overseas if they are functionally the same if the overseas gear is discounted ... and im saving a lot of money, then ill definately take the savings and buy overseas but please dont tell me they cant produce those $$$$ jackets locally ... because there are companies that do Canada Goose CEO takes pride in remaining true to 'Made in Canada' For many winter wanderers around the world, Canada Goose jackets are synonymous with warmth and quality, and Reiss believes a big part of that is because the companys iconic down-filled jackets are still made right here in Canada. While other clothing manufacturers have long since outsourced production to Asia, Canada Goose has kept all of its production within Canada, not only as a point of pride but as a crucial part of maintaining the brands credibility with consumers, Reiss says. Authenticity is everything. You cant outsource the meaning behind the product. Id like to think that Made in Canada is going to see a renaissance and if it does, wed like to think we were a part of that because weve taken a very strong position that is who we are, Reiss said. metronews.ca/vancouver/work…
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Peter Stokes
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Jul 14, 2011
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Them Thar Hills
· Joined Apr 2009
· Points: 150
Lauren D. Hollingsworth wrote:The purpose of business is to make money. If it were anything else it would be charity. There is a place for that, but it's not business. OK, fair enough, but would we really have lost so many jobs here if our "leaders" hadn't been giving tax breaks and incentives to companies who outsource those jobs? We can make better policy decisions than that. There actually are companies here who don't use the "race to the bottom" model, and consistently turn a profit- do a search on Lincoln Electric in Ohio (they make welding equipment). This subject might get a bit more interesting when oil gets up around $180/barrel- at that point shipping long distances may not be cheaper, even with the bogus policies we've all been paying for.
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coppolillo
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Aug 10, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Sep 2009
· Points: 70
good words, Yarp. Verve produces here in Boulder. check out "bluesign;" it's a third-party certification that tracks supply-consumer chain, rating social/environmental stuff. i know Rab's involved with them. patagonia does its own monitoring, though i know they've involved bluesign in their Common Threads program. yeah, the argument "for" sweatshop labor smells suspiciously like a well-funded PR firm prepared talking points for the american trade association---who, by the way, is one of the foremost opponents to raising the minimum wage in China. how very American.
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Bob Dergay
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Aug 10, 2011
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Colorado
· Joined Oct 2006
· Points: 101
Personally, I find it disgusting the amount of money these companies are charging when they're making the stuff in Asia. Patagonia charges hundreds of dollars for gore-tex shells that probably only use 1-2 yards of fabric... I cannot believe that those jackets can't be made in America for a (handsome) profit. Shame on them. And don't even get me started on the 57 different full-color catalogs per year that patagonia prints and mails out.... They're soooooo green and friendly.
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Evan Johnson
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Aug 11, 2011
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Oct 2009
· Points: 675
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bearbreeder
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Aug 12, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
BDergay wrote:Personally, I find it disgusting the amount of money these companies are charging when they're making the stuff in Asia. Patagonia charges hundreds of dollars for gore-tex shells that probably only use 1-2 yards of fabric... I cannot believe that those jackets can't be made in America for a (handsome) profit. Shame on them. And don't even get me started on the 57 different full-color catalogs per year that patagonia prints and mails out.... They're soooooo green and friendly. again ... westcomb ... same price as patagucci n dead bird ... not cheap that is but top notch materials, top notch stitching, and made in vancouver canada fashionable yuppie design as well ;)
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tradryan
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Aug 12, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Feb 2008
· Points: 63
we're talking about carhartt right?
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Ice4life
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Aug 12, 2011
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US
· Joined Nov 2010
· Points: 330
Arcteryx, although a Canadian company has certain contracts with the U.S. military and has set up a factory in the U.S. to make garments that are berry compliant. My guess is that they also produce other things there non military related. So Arcteryx maybe?
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joe q fed up
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Aug 12, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2007
· Points: 0
Heres something that should revise a lot of clichés, though it probably wont: less than 3% of U.S. consumption expenditures are on goods made in China. Almost 90% are made in the USA. Of course, the domestic total is boosted by servicesbut even durable goods are 12% China, 67% U.S. And less than half the value of Chinese imports go to China55% of the money spent on Chinese goods represent processing and other services (like distribution and retailing) provided in the U.S. This info comes from a new paper by Galina Hale and Bart Hobijn of the San Francisco Fed. Their point was to show that Chinese inflation has minimal influence on U.S. price levels, which is persuasive. But its also an antidote to the widespread belief that the U.S. is hollowed out and all the action is in China. Weve got problems, yes, but weve also got resourcesresources we can do a lot better with than we are now. source: lbo-news.com/2011/08/09/mad… Buy used. Nuff said.
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bearbreeder
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Aug 12, 2011
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
Ice4life wrote:Arcteryx, although a Canadian company has certain contracts with the U.S. military and has set up a factory in the U.S. to make garments that are berry compliant. My guess is that they also produce other things there non military related. So Arcteryx maybe? 70% of dead birds are made overseas ... according to a recent fbook post by them ... this includes such wonderous items as a 275$ polartec fleece jacket made in el salvador ;)
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Peter Stokes
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Aug 12, 2011
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Them Thar Hills
· Joined Apr 2009
· Points: 150
Joe Q's post is cut-and-pasted from a radio commentator's website- if you're interested in the actual Fed article mentioned, it's here: frbsf.org/publications/econ…
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S.Stelli
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Aug 12, 2011
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Colorado Springs, CO
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 150
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magoo
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Aug 15, 2011
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Duke City
· Joined Mar 2011
· Points: 455
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Happiegrrrl
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Aug 16, 2011
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Gunks
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 60
ClimbAddict(my shop) uses blanks that are printed in the US. Some of the apparel blanks are imported, and others are made in US. Still, it is factory work. My chalkbags, on the other hand, are made not only NOT in a factory, but made by myself. And not only are they not made in an assembly-line production, they actually each have about 45 minutes hand-sewing work(the inside of top collar and belt loops are attached by hand). I don't charge any extra for the handwork, though I am working on adding an information page about the work, and a donations buttons for those who feel they might like to pay more for the handwork. So, while a chalkbag isn't clothing, per se, it's pretty much a part of the 'climber costume.'
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