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Jennifer Pinkus
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Nov 3, 2009
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Vail, CO
· Joined Oct 2008
· Points: 45
Sorry that I created such conflict. It was a true story and I love to write but sometimes get carried away and forget who I am writing for. Apparently I need to work on my attention to detail. I was not trying to boast about my climbing abilities, as I stated that I had no bushiness being up there. However, I know better now. The route was Kiener's to Stettner's Ledges, which does have a 5.8 pitch. When we crossed the top we could not see anything, but I do know that we found rings and rapped down two pitches to a boulder field that was covered with snow. I am terrible with directions and route finding and the snow did not help, but I should have gone back and researched the route before submitting my post. As for the cringer I am sorry that I made you cringe. It won't happen again and if you see my name you should avoid reading my messages. Sorry to have offended you. I will be sure to keep my stories to myself next time.
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Jim Amidon
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Nov 3, 2009
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2001
· Points: 840
Is this real ??? Or are you in a writing class and wrote this for an assignment ???
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Jennifer Pinkus
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Nov 3, 2009
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Vail, CO
· Joined Oct 2008
· Points: 45
Real. Is it cheesy? Really did think that I might die, but am still alive.
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Jim Amidon
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Nov 3, 2009
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2001
· Points: 840
Seems to be discrepionsies in the descriptions to what you did and where you were.
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matt snider
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Nov 3, 2009
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Flagstaff AZ.
· Joined Aug 2009
· Points: 15
Jennifer Pinkus wrote:Real. Is it cheesy? Really did think that I might die, but am still alive. Hey Jennifer, I took a fall this summer and am trying to write an essay about it. I enjoyed yours a lot. It's so hard to write about it after the fact. I don't know how some one is questioning your recollection of the events that took place. Great essay.
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Forestvonsinkafinger
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Nov 3, 2009
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SLV, CO
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 2,090
It sounds to me that the descent was via the old cable route. What did you learn from your experience?
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pfwein Weinberg
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Nov 3, 2009
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Boulder, CO
· Joined May 2006
· Points: 71
Boreas wrote:This little gem sits in the back of the Back Country Office of R.M.N.P. I laminated this photo, and placed it in my pack. It is there to remind me of my place among the mountains, and what will happen if I forget it. Hmmmm, seems to me that nature punishes smart and average IQ people as well. And it sometimes gives stupid (and smart and average) people a pass. We can all like different slogans and I don't mean to be overly critical, just presenting a different point of view. I'm slightly troubled by the view that those who may require the assistance of RMNP personnel are stupid, but maybe I'm overly sensitive. (For the record, I've never required any assistance; only things rangers do for me are hassles, knock on wood.) I prefer the saying that "The Mountains Don't Care."
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Buff Johnson
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Nov 3, 2009
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 1,145
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Jennifer Pinkus
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Nov 3, 2009
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Vail, CO
· Joined Oct 2008
· Points: 45
Thanks to both of you guys for reading my essay. I was not offended at all by either remark but took them as compliments and insights as to what parts of stories interest readers. I really wrote about my trip because climbing and writing are my passions. I love describing and sharing incidents so that people can connect and respond with their stories too. I put little thought into whether I was a wimp or not. I added the details because, in retrospect, I thought they were kinda of funny, now that I am alive. I definately feel like life is full of twists and turns no matter who you are and how right you do everything. The beauty is that it is all a part of the adventure and the outcome is in how you perceive and react to the bumps along the way. I am working on this! Thanks again for your thoughts. Climb safely and share any good stories.
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Jim Matt
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Nov 3, 2009
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Cincinnati, OH
· Joined Sep 2003
· Points: 255
Okay, I am confused. The mountaineering route up Longs that you allude to is Kiener's route, and (with careful routefinding), never exceeds 5.5 in difficulty. The approach to that is up Lamb's Slide, traverse Broadway, then up 2-3 pitches of 5.5 (or easier) terrain. So you dial it down from a 5.10a romp on the Diamond to Kiener's route...or did you do some other route? Nothing from your description makes sense...I agree with Jim on this one. No doubt any adventure on Longs can be an epic, but if this is on the up-and-up, you should be grateful that you didn't tackle anything on the Diamond proper, as you obviously were ill prepared to do so. "Chasm Route" = "North Face aka old Cable Route" "Keystone Route" = "Keyhole Route" Sorry for the criticism, but I cringe as I read this.
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RockinGal Moser
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Nov 3, 2009
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Boulder CO
· Joined Jan 2008
· Points: 30
Congratulations on not becoming a statistic.
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John McNamee
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Nov 3, 2009
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Littleton, CO
· Joined Jul 2002
· Points: 1,690
Jennifer, Thanks for sharing your story with us. I enjoyed it but didn't have time to post up until now. Climbing is certainly an adventure and I've definitely had my share, some good, some bad. It takes courage to share them on the internet and subject yourself to a forum like this and I think sometimes people read more into things than they should. I also think some of the comments are unfair and in bad taste, but hopefully it won't discourage you from sharing your next climbing experience. Thanks. john
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Brandy Persson
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Nov 3, 2009
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Vail, CO
· Joined Sep 2009
· Points: 5
Hey Pink Eye!.....What the heck did you write that was so bad? Did you delete it? I can't seem to find it.... Hope to see you at the gym soon....
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Phil Lauffen
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Nov 3, 2009
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Innsbruck, AT
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 3,113
I thought it was a good story. you should put it back up. MP.com has a particularly nasty peanut gallery
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YDPL8S
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Nov 3, 2009
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Santa Monica, Ca.
· Joined Aug 2003
· Points: 540
I agree, there have been many times when climbing above 12,000 feet that 5.5 has felt like 5.9 to me, especially in bad weather conditions when I'm cold.
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matt davies
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Nov 4, 2009
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2007
· Points: 25
It takes guts to climb, just like it takes guts to show the world who you are through your words. You do both, and that's more than a lot of people can say. Keep doin' what you're doin, if you like it. You'll always make mistakes, but that's where the stories come from. No one ever wrote an "epic" about how everything went smoothly, including remembering the exact route in hindsight. Your story is yours and it was a fun read. Be proud of your courage, in the mountains, and on the page.
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k. riemondy
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Nov 4, 2009
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Denver, Co
· Joined Oct 2006
· Points: 80
thank you for your story. I enjoyed reading it. Please post more.
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SAL
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Nov 4, 2009
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broomdigiddy
· Joined Mar 2007
· Points: 785
Jim Matt wrote:Okay, I am confused. The mountaineering route up Longs that you allude to is Kiener's route, and (with careful routefinding), never exceeds 5.5 in difficulty. The approach to that is up Lamb's Slide, traverse Broadway, then up 2-3 pitches of 5.5 (or easier) terrain. So you dial it down from a 5.10a romp on the Diamond to Kiener's route...or did you do some other route? Nothing from your description makes sense...I agree with Jim on this one. No doubt any adventure on Longs can be an epic, but if this is on the up-and-up, you should be grateful that you didn't tackle anything on the Diamond proper, as you obviously were ill prepared to do so. "Chasm Route" = "North Face aka old Cable Route" "Keystone Route" = "Keyhole Route" Sorry for the criticism, but I cringe as I read this. hahahahaha. your funny.
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JT Lehman
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Nov 4, 2009
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Portland, OR
· Joined Mar 2008
· Points: 75
I enjoyed your story, entirely accurate or not.
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Jim Matt
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Nov 4, 2009
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Cincinnati, OH
· Joined Sep 2003
· Points: 255
Stettners Ledges makes more sense to me. Thanks for clarifying that. I was cringing at the thought of lightning striking all around you. That can yield some of the most frightning moments in one's life. I'm glad you are safe. And, for the record...I did enjoy the story.
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Glenn Schuler
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Nov 4, 2009
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Monument, Co.
· Joined Jun 2006
· Points: 1,335
Don't listen to the a-holes Jennifer, I enjoyed your story. Keep writing & posting trip reports, beats the hell out of another political thread!
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