Plastic holds bolted on Utah rock?!

I also think Provo Canyon does have great potential. There are a few areas where the rock is not nearly as chossy as in the rest of the canyon.

That is a good point about the park service-- I didn't consider that before. I think it might be a good idea maybe for Mike White to contact them, and if they didn't do it, it would be helpful to explain that it was not the work of climbers (seems obvious that it wasn't). Also it might be helpful in setting a tone for developing the area?

Also I would like to help out this Saturday but I'm probably going to be pretty busy with work. If I can get out of it I'll go.

Upon further thought I think that the most probable answer to this mystery is: Eagle Scout Project.

If this is true then it was probably done with the city's permission and ripping it out is going to cause trouble.

I think we had better contact the city before we do anything. Gileadi is right that if we do this correctly we could actually improve the image of the climbing community.

Anyone want to volunteer to call to the city?

Lee Jensen

Lee Jensen wrote:Anyone want to volunteer to call to the city?

I wonder if its private land.

And, if so, ya'll best not mess with it without contacting the land owner.

-Brian in SLC

Wouldn't this be orem city?
Or is it still provo?

Yes I agree we should contact the land manager and hopefully the person who did it.
Lets not jump the gun here.

On the phone right now!

Update.. I spoke with The HMFIC russ at the utah county parks depatment and he is going up to take a look at it right now.

Orem city is looking into it also.

And yes we need permission first.
And no it was not them. They know nothing about it.

All you people that do such good work to help keep climbers relations with land owners and government people are great! Thanks for all your hard work and effort. It is because of people like you that make me proud to be part of the climbing community. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by all of us. thanks!

yeah, what ben said!!!!

For some reason I cant send the above photo to russ, can anybody help?

Mike,
How are you trying to send it?

Brad Brandewie wrote:Mike, How are you trying to send it?

Beats me If I give you the address can you send it for me.
I tried every way I could think of.

Ben Folsom wrote:All you people that do such good work to help keep climbers relations with land owners and government people are great! Thanks for all your hard work and effort. It is because of people like you that make me proud to be part of the climbing community. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by all of us. thanks!

Thanks Ben.

Any time but next time bro.
lol

Ben Folsom wrote:All you people that do such good work to help keep climbers relations with land owners and government people are great! Thanks for all your hard work and effort. It is because of people like you that make me proud to be part of the climbing community. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by all of us. thanks!

Yes, thanks very much!

best,

Sam

I wont be there tomorrow. I have to work and I am still talking to Russ.

Here are pictures of the newest route in Provo Canyon:

The view from the trail. Not very obvious unless you are looking for them. It will be even less obvious when the foliage comes in.

Closer view of the wall with the bark visible. Eight holds in all.

Very professional.

Lee Jensen

Got an e-mail from russ and it sounds like we will have the ok soon.

Man that looks like crap.

Sunday anybody?

Man those are U-G-L-Y!

So how do you think this is going to pan out as far as the city's perception of development of real routes in the canyon goes?

I don't think new routes will be an issue as long as people don't glue holds on them.

Their main concern was safety and inexperienced people climbing on it, and it just looks bad.

Russ gave me the permission to remove them and said if we did not then they would.

Anybody got time this weekend?

This land is controlled by Utah county parks and rec.

I will speak to him more about climbers and new routes.

the saddest part is that the wall looks climbable without the plastic holds, maybe somewhere in the 5.10 or 5.11 range.

Well, Provo canyon will probably not be the next AF, but there is a lot of rock there of a similar type. So no worries, I think, about this being a potentially ruined route.

Mike, I might be able to make it out there this weekend if you want me to help, I know I've got work but I'll see what I can do...

You guys aren't going to fuck with my proj, are you?