Horndogger Select

Does anyone know about Horndogger and Horndogger Select?

I figure I can find the start of Horndogger, a route parallel to Solar Slab Gully, easily enough. However, Roxanna Brock indicates that the route continues above Solar Slab terrace as Horndogger Select. She says in her book that these Select pitches are the same as Sundog, but by comparing it with the Sundog, which I've climbed before, this does not seem to be the case.

Any light shed on this subject would be appreciated.

John

Thanks, I forgot to look in the Supertopo. As usual, good beta is to be found there.

John

Horndogger Select must be one of the worst routes I've done in Red Rocks and I've climbed here since 1978.

Well, for what it's worth, I climbed the lower, 3-pitch Horndog route yesterday and I climbed Horndogger Select, Sundog finish in December with Gigette, and I must say that I found those routes to be completely enjoyable...

Funny, I'd be hard pressed to decide on what the worst route in Red Rock is. I've pretty much enjoyed them all. However, Dogleg Crack in Icebox Canyon was a pretty big disappointment for me...

John

John Hegyes wrote: Funny, I'd be hard pressed to decide on what the worst route in Red Rock is. I've pretty much enjoyed them all. However, Dogleg Crack in Icebox Canyon was a pretty big disappointment for me... John

What are you talking about baby? That's a fun route!! I enjoyed it even though you dragged my stressed, whipped butt out in 106 degrees after work. Dogleg Crack is a girl's best friend! Woof, woof.

I did Horndogger a couple of years ago. We got to the base of the 10a pitch and had to rappel due to losing light. We got 2 ropes stuck trying to retrieve them from the little balls that act as velcro. Finally we caught up with and rapped with 2 guys from Flagstaff who were coming off their own epic on Johnny Vegas and proceeded to rap with them. However when you rap the gulley you have to make a jog and continue down - which we didn't do. Instead we went straight down, came within 15 ft of the ground and got the other two ropes stuck. We pulled enough of one rope to get off the rock. Yeah, that's 4 ropes caught in one day.

So my thoughts, Horndogger sucked little sandstone velcro balls - but it's also one of my best bar stories. Lesson to be learned - read the Supertopo guide yourself despite what your partner tells you.

Chris