Type: Trad, 100 ft
FA: unknown
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Shared By: Greg D on Jun 9, 2016
Admins: grk10vq, Mike Engle

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Fun route with a variety of jams, stems and chimney techniques required. The first part of the route is sort of a half pipe. Then its fingers and hands. After about 70 feet it merges with the wide 8 that is to its left , but it is a straight up line. Its a bit dirty but still worthwhile.

I highly doubt this was an FA although it did not appear to have ever been cleaned up. If anyone knows the correct name and FA's please update.


About 80 feet right of Hesitation Blues, 20 feet right of the wide 8. It is not in the current guide book but it shares the finish with the wide 8 that is in the current book.

Rap: scramble north west to chains and rap about 30 feet. Then, scramble north to slings and tat. Rap 30 feet to the ground.


Standard rack. A #3 camalot is useful.


This sounds like the existing 5.8, "Beyond and Back". I don't think it gets done much, and may well feel like an FA! Aug 23, 2016
Logan, UT
BrentL   Logan, UT
Good, varied route. Starts with a little stemming, then good fingers and hands to the top of a block. Pick a crack and move slightly right and up. Great hands to top. Gear anchor, or sling large block for belay; or traverse right to chains up top. Easy to walk up and over to Roadkill's chains to rap with a 70M. Jun 28, 2018