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That is sweet Dave!  

ben brownell wrote:

Tantalizing, sure, but for half that price I'll put somebody on over 50 secluded acres with a rustic 10 bed (in tents) setup reasonably close to the *other* Lover's Leap in delightfully backwards yet perennially resilient Upstate Cal!

You should delete this post.  Classless. Write your own ad on your own post.

ben brownell wrote:

Tantalizing, sure, but for half that price I'll put somebody on over 50 secluded acres with a rustic 10 bed (in tents) setup reasonably close to the *other* Lover's Leap in delightfully backwards yet perennially resilient Upstate Cal!

I wonder why you can get 50 acres so cheaply...

Oh, maybe today's forecast "Sunny and hot, with a high near 98."

Real Estate prices are generally set where they are for valid reasons. 

Damn. Special spot. 

Good luck with the sale.

If only...little too far of a commute to Reno for me(still gotta work for a few more)

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

It'd be delightful if some of that resilience wasn't so invested in the backwardness. 

Ah, Kevin, you aren't enamored of that to-be third world country called the "State of Jefferson?" Clueless and trained to be scared by Faux News; yeah, that's a recipe for great civic leaders.

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

It'd be delightful if some of that resilience wasn't so invested in the backwardness. 

OP, feel free to regulate on scandalous diversions here, but this could be a solid marketing angle to unpack further re: local community attitudes and efforts with respect to somewhat um, combustible future scenarios? I am definitely into helping people evaluate and engage with proactive 'resilience' and community/enviro integrity measures, and not in a one solution rules way at all. I wish more real estate searches/transactions actively factored that in by now. Sometimes it is two steps back and one forward (or sideways) for the eventual win I think Kevin, a deep reset without fixating on old forms. Worth exploring at least, and I'm trying to make space for it near and far! May we all get (back) home, in full service :)

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

State of Jefferson, John Birch Society, GA Bund, Rebels, King's Men, this country has had a long lasting undercurrent of anti-american "patriots"

Patriot (n). One to whom the interests of a part seem superior to those of the whole. The dupe of statesmen and the tool of conquerors.

-- Ambrose Bierce, 1906

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Can the buyer get homeowner's insurance  or only California Fair Plan ?

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Daaaaamn. Sweet little spot. I'm itching to make the best bad decision of my life.

I'll be climbing the leap sunday AM, so I'll stop in when done!

Wow, less $ than I expected. What an amazing location. Have you done the math and looked at permits to see if you can AirBNB it and keep it as an investment?

Dave Stallard wrote:

Bumping this - the house is still available

Asking price = $475,000 

Zestimate® = $385,000

Yurywrote:

Asking price = $475,000 

Zestimate® = $385,000

What's the point of this post?

He might be saying the asking price is too high, based on the Zestimate.  However, the Zestimate's in the area are not accurate (big surprise) in large part due to the fact that there are a number of Forest Service cabins for sale nearby.  These cabins are rad, but have a lot of restrictions: for one, you don't own the land, only the structure, and your landlord is the Forest Service. Further, you cannot rent them for more than a week per year, you are not allowed to live in them as your primary residence, and you cannot make any changes to exterior (no expansions).  So, for that reason, these cabins cost less than a fee simple lot you own, and can do whatever you want.  However, you also can't get a traditional loan for those cabins, since you don't own the land.

The cabins have gotten pricey in recent years. If you look at Zillow, you will see several for sale in the 250-300k range.  That is a lot of money for a place you can only really use in the summer. (roads are not plowed, water is turned off).  By contrast, the place I'm selling is on a road plowed by the county, is insulated/winterized, and fully livable year round.  And it costs less than 2x what people want for their Forest Service cabins.  People can decide for themselves which is the better deal.   

Edit to add: the asking price is based on about 8 or 9 homes (not FS cabins) that have sold in the last 2-3 years. So I put some thought into it.  For reference, there is a place down the street that is larger, in ok condition, that they are asking 800k for.  Seems high to me, but maybe not to the right person.  At the end of the day, it's all real estate, and it's business. People are free to not like the price, not make an offer, or get their feelings hurt.  For me, it's a business transaction. But, I do live very close by and would like it to go to a climber and be a transaction everyone walks away from feeling good about.  I would encourage anyone seriously considering buying it (or really any other house) to do their research on the local area.

You don't have to justify your asking price to someone that's not interested in buying it. Or to anyone, really.

But when you post a job offer or a house for sale on MP, you can expect the pot shots.

An asking price is just a starting point.  

That is of course true, but I am interested in being transparent with any potential buyers, because I am trying to sell it myself without using a realtor, and if successful, that person will be my neighbor.  So I am happy to explain the price, the work we've done on the place, and the like.  Yury is not the first person to mention the Zestimate to me, as either a dig or a negotiating point.  I just think (for the above stated reasons) that the Zestimate is way off.  Frankly I wouldn't put much faith in it in any area, let alone a small market like the American river canyon on highway 50, where there is very limited inventory and house quality/condition varies wildly.  

Dave Stallardwrote:

Edit to add: the asking price is based on about 8 or 9 homes (not FS cabins) that have sold in the last 2-3 years.

Can I assume that you understand the difference between prices 3 years ago and today?
Can I assume that you also understand the current trend of prices in such faraway places?

Can we assume your just poking a bear for no real reason. If the price is too high you have couple options:
- Do nothing and live your life knowing that this person valued their home higher than you think it should be and watch it sit on market. Celebrate?
- Make an offer that you feel appropriate.
- Or be a negative Nancy making backhanded comments based off your superior real estate knowledge you have decided to flex on a climbing forum.

just for reference, I sold my aunts FS cabin right up the hill at echo lake for 475 which is about 150 over zillow estimate 1 year ago and 75 over asking. I dont think that's the norm, but its not that uncommon either.