Harnesses with reenforced tie-in points

Does anyone besides Mammut make a harness with plastic reenforced tie-in points?

I've only seen Mammut. This could be a good 3D print project for someone who wants to play around with flexible filament. 

Some Edelrid harnesses have had them. But it looks like none of Edelrid's current lineup of harnesses have them.

And I only recall seeing a reinforced lower tie in point (i.e. on the leg loops). Did Mammut, Edelrid or others ever make one with both tie in points reinforced? 

Petzl makes some of their tie in points with Dyneema which should be more abrasion resistant than nylon. 

My Edelrid Jay has a reinforced top tie-in point. Although that one's coming up on 10 years of use (YGD!!)

Looks like it's only textile reinforced now: 

Textile abrasion protector made of a combination of Dyneema® and polyester for a longer tie-in point service life

I'm sure Misty Mountain could fashion something for you.

The lower one is the main problem, I go though one every year. Anyone got good diy solutions to protect?

Blake Mwrote:

The lower one is the main problem, I go though one every year. Anyone got good diy solutions to protect?

I tried plastic hose from the hardware store. Didn't work so good. I also tried stealing the protector off a retired harness. That was better, but not great. Depending on how janky you want to be you could just wrap it in tape. I recommend clear tape, with the first layer doubled back on itself. That way you're not sticking to your harness but you can still see the harness. 

Slit open a short length of 1" tubular webbing. Sear the cut edges and sew it back together around the tie in points. 

J Lwrote:

My Edelrid Jay has a reinforced top tie-in point. Although that one's coming up on 10 years of use (YGD!!)

Looks like it's only textile reinforced now: 

I'm sure Misty Mountain could fashion something for you.

Edelrid stopped using those following a couple of accidents. Apperently some users didn't notice the wear of their harnesses due to the reinforced tie in points and subsequently used them to the point of failure. So Edelrid stopped using them in favor of fabric tie in points with color wear indicator webbing.

Apperently climbers are bad at checking their harness's condition apart from the tie in points. Furthermore the tie in points are designed such that they wear out at about the same time as the rest of the harness. When your tie in points are worn out, chances are you shouldn't use the rest of the harness either. 

Source: Some German interview with an Edelrid designer on YouTube. 

Furthermore the tie in points are designed such that they wear out at about the same time as the rest of the harness. When your tie in points are worn out, chances are you shouldn't use the rest of the harness either.

I don't buy this. This is my bottom tie in point after one year, the rest of the harness is in excellent condition.

Blake, what are you doing that causes that sort of wear? Permanently girth hitched dyneema PAS?

I think Blake is a bad to the bone, tried and true, get your beloggles ready -hang dogger

How do I know? Because that’s about what my harness looks like after a year. 

Blake Mwrote:

I don't buy this. This is my bottom tie in point after one year, the rest of the harness is in excellent condition.

If you get your hands on those reinforced tie-in points, just remember to be extra vigilant in checking the other areas of your harness for wear. Then you should be golden! 

im with blake on this one whereby if you hand HARD and belay HARD it would be nice if your harness lasted longer than a year.

btw blake what knot do you use? Probably makes no difference but at this point im considering anything and everything

Self fusing silicone wrap might do the trick. I haven’t used it for tie in points but it works well for reducing wear on drybag tiedown loops.

Eli Wwrote:

Self fusing silicone wrap might do the trick. I haven’t used it for tie in points but it works well for reducing wear on drybag tiedown loops.

Was contemplating this, might be too flexible?

I use an 8 generally. And yes I try hard and end up falling a lot, I am also ~205lbs which probably doesn't help with the wear