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Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0

Here’s a new one. Mods if you’re out there please de-activate this brand new account.
Dan Smee · · Pennsylvania · Joined Aug 2022 · Points: 127
Climb On wrote:

Here’s a new one. Mods if you’re out there please de-activate this brand new account.

"Lung cancer of the lungs"

Thomas capehart · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2023 · Points: 0
Bb Cc wrote:

Bot scams

Why am I flag as a scam or bc I try to comment on my first day or something I can't dig

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11
Climb On wrote:

Here’s a new one. Mods if you’re out there please de-activate this brand new account.

I think everyone on MP got that message today, too. Nice to know spamming is alive and well on the DM system. 

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0
Andrew Rice wrote:

I think everyone on MP got that message today, too. Nice to know spamming is alive and well on the DM system. 

It was tolerable (barely) when it was only on the threads. Keep that crap out of my inbox. 

Christian Hesch · · Arroyo Grande, CA · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 55
Daniel Tosh wrote:

I’m a very reputable seller here on MP, and one of my buyers just messaged me saying his package never arrived, has anyone come across a solution to this issues apart from just thinking a buyer is trying to scam? I’d like to give the benefit of a doubt and not think that of them.

thanks!

pursuant to the empty or lost envelope, I sent Dan S (above poster) a red C3 last year and I used to be in the habit of cutting padded amazon envelopes in half to ship single or small cams... and apparently it made it to the regional usps hub and has been "in transit" ever since. Life lesson was to always use a full size envelope and even add padding inside to make it bigger (without adding weight) to reduce the risk of usps losing it. Also worth the extra $3-4 to pay for the padded, flat rate envelope (or small/med flat rate box), b/c at least you get $100 insurance (I saved $4 and only paid $6 to mail the C3 via 1st class (instead of priority) to dan, which meant I had to eat $60 or so to refund him when it never showed up - lesson learned). Finally, doesn't hurt to take a photo of the box/envelope w/ cams inside, then another one after it's taped closed. Obviously anyone could fake those photos but it can't hurt, then delete them after the buyer confirms delivery.

Robert Cleveland · · Thompson, MB Canada · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 90

I have reached out to my bank and they stated that it would take 10 weeks , til l get my refund, l am still waiting . People need to be honest when they sell their stuff and this would not have happened. The seller wants me to send the boots back and then he would refund my money. Scammed me once no need to be scam me twice. 

raphaël kervella · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2023 · Points: 0

Scammers sucks!

I just got played like a kid by this DM.

After a few emails back and forth, I even got a picture of this magnum metolius crash pad.

Well, we were a bit hasty about sending the money via paypal, excited by the idea of finally having a mattress to set off for the assault on the United States...

For the moment, we're bouldering in Yosemite on top of a tablecloth... it's cool though!

Sean Anderson · · blue bins from target · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 30

Sorry that happened to you Raphaël! That account name rang a bell and I looked back in my emails and found a very similar message!

EDIT: It's worth checking the email address when interacting with people (here and elsewhere). If it's not something someone would reasonably choose as their address, then be extra careful. For example, "Lydia's" email at the bottom of Raphaël's screenshot. A similar thing holds true for when businesses email (such as banks, apple, etc) and request that you change some personal info; always check to see what email address sent it.

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11

Sorry you got scammed. At least MP properly flagged that account as dubious!

Aki Wakisaka · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Mar 2023 · Points: 0

I got dm’d by this person as well. Seemed very persistent not to use goods and services for a pair of dark machines. But the pictures they sent weren’t stolen wierdly enough. Condolences for your lost money.
Robert Cleveland · · Thompson, MB Canada · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 90

I am familiar with Lydia as well. She was trying to sell me a pair of  Scarpa 6000, size 44 . She sent pictures. I told her l deal with PayPal, she stated that she didn’t have a PayPal account and asked if l would send it to her relative. I felt something was up and asked her to send it C.O.D. She then asked me to send half the cash and when the boots arrived , l was to send her the other half. The transaction did not happen. I felt something fishy was happening.

Regarding Mr. Dominic Gonzalez Patron , l have yet to receive a refund from him either. This transaction happened at the end of April. My bank is working on getting a refund from him. If you use Visa and someone rips you off the bank will go after them Some people are very scrupulous. Buyer beware. P.S l am still looking to purchase a pair of Scarpa 6000,size 44.

charlie wang · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2023 · Points: 0

Was also messaged by her trying to sell me a grigri, kept getting me to try and use cashapp, neither of which were hers. I actually sent the payment which was kind of stupid on my part, but I only did it bc I thought there was some form of purchase protection. She never accepted the money so it got cancelled thank goodness, and asked to send again cus fiance was "in hospital" lmao.

Tomily ma · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 570

I got an offer at full value (red flag) for a double rack I’m selling. Do scammers ever buy things? How would that work? It’s been a while since I’ve sold on the proj. Thanks

Daniel Tosh · · CA · Joined Aug 2020 · Points: 351
Tomily ma wrote:

I got an offer at full value (red flag) for a double rack I’m selling. Do scammers ever buy things? How would that work? It’s been a while since I’ve sold on the proj. Thanks

I had an issue recently, never found out if it was a scammer or not, but, buyer purchased the lot of QuickDraws, I received payment and shipped out his items complete, months later he hits me up saying it never arrived, maybe your buy wil try the same, learn from my mistake and buy the insurance!!!

Dan Smee · · Pennsylvania · Joined Aug 2022 · Points: 127
Tomily ma wrote:

I got an offer at full value (red flag) for a double rack I’m selling. Do scammers ever buy things? How would that work? It’s been a while since I’ve sold on the proj. Thanks

Full value meaning asking price?  If so, that's not a red flag; happens all the time if it's a reasonable price.  But yes, you can get scammed as a seller.  Generally easy to protect if you get tracking and take pics of your packing and shipping lables etc. But it happens.  The old "empty box" scam and others.  

It's been said a million times here but truely: if you get a sketch feeling, it's probably sketch.  Just trust your gut.  

Ice4life · · US · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 330

Alex Musk email address ericjames0900@gmail.com is contacting users to sell items. he contacted me from the user Alex Musk who has 1 contribution, so that’s a red flag. Offered to sell me a headlamp. When I told him I was looking for another one he magically had that one too. When I asked him to provide pictures he sent a few. When I asked him if that’s the actual unit and his own photos he claimed yes.

Didn’t even do a good job since a quick google search revealed the pictures he claimed to be his own were from a gear require website.

Be careful dealing with that dude. Clearly a scammer 

Matthew Bell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 10
Sean Anderson wrote:

Sorry that happened to you Raphaël! That account name rang a bell and I looked back in my emails and found a very similar message!

EDIT: It's worth checking the email address when interacting with people (here and elsewhere). If it's not something someone would reasonably choose as their address, then be extra careful. For example, "Lydia's" email at the bottom of Raphaël's screenshot. A similar thing holds true for when businesses email (such as banks, apple, etc) and request that you change some personal info; always check to see what email address sent it.

This same person tried to scam me. I posted a WTB asking for a specific pair of vintiage shoes in a specific size and they replied with an hour and happened to have the exact pair. This smelled fishy to me given the account history and I didn't bite. They even sent me pictures that didn't search to anything I could find online. The biggest redflag to me was their speed of reply combined with their lack of account history. Based on what other people here are saying I made a good choice.

The OG message:

Hi there, my fiancé has a pair he’s looking to sell.. not particularly new but in an excellent condition. Let me know if you’re interested 

Climbing Weasel · · Massachusetts · Joined May 2022 · Points: 0

This feels sketchy- fast response in the WTB, weird spelling mistakes, and a new account sending me to a different person’s email. If this is legitimate my sincere apologies to Henry and Ellison, but wanted to see if other folks thought this also seems suspect. 

Climb On · · Everywhere · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 0
Climbing Weasel wrote:

This feels sketchy- fast response in the WTB, weird spelling mistakes, and a new account sending me to a different person’s email. If this is legitimate my sincere apologies to Henry and Ellison, but wanted to see if other folks thought this also seems suspect. 

Super sketch. It has all the red flags of the account that tried to scam me. 

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