Why are women allowed to climb without a shirt in a gym but men cannot?

For all eternity you are locked inside inside the stall of a public toilet. The only sensory input is the graffiti on the walls. Welcome. MP. 

Matthew Jaggerswrote:

I just want to know what level of ocd/germaphobia one has to have to think a shirt creates a more hygienic facility than no shirt? I'm a huge hater of seeing idiots with their shirt off in gyms, guy or girl, but there's zero consideration of hygiene in the equation. If hygiene was a factor at all, everyone should have to wear long sleeves and long pants to make any sense at all. 

I think it’s more about the “ick” factor than actual hygiene. In my experience people are grossed out by the sweat, not by the exposed chest. Forcing people to wear a top absorbs the majority of it. 

Khoiwrote:

One of the gyms I used to work at had the rule about shirts being mandatory. Said rule was made by men, and it was made because of other men. The reason for the rule was because the men who made this rule didn't want the gym to be full of a bunch of topless guys all peacocking and "subtlely" trying to out alpha male one another; they didn't want to deal with the issues that they anticipated would arise if the gym environment facilitated allowing bro culture to run amok.
  I remember many years ago first stepping into the gym that would become my home gym, anticipating a total sausage fest but being pleasantly surprised to see a near 50/50 gender balance among the patrons who were in to climb that evening.

An entire gym full of insecure men! Poor guys. You there to get strong or sit there and wonder if bro is micro aggressing you with his swoll chest? I go to the gym to climb, not worry about the percentages of which genders are there at any given moment. I just can’t imagine seeing the world through that lens, it seems exhausting.

Many businesses require shirts to enter, so it's not unusual.

"No shirt, no shoes, no service."

Baltimore McAllisterwrote: An entire gym full of insecure men! Poor guys. You there to get strong or sit there and wonder if bro is micro aggressing you with his swoll chest? I go to the gym to climb, not worry about the percentages of which genders are there at any given moment. I just can’t imagine seeing the world through that lens, it seems exhausting.

You must be new here, flexing like that.

Many businesses require shirts to enter, so it's not unusual.

True. But those businesses don’t allow you to climb on the walls and the furniture either

Just wear a fucking shirt man, it doesn’t matter.  

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

Why do you have to give him props for being the third person to say it in this thread? Is it some sort of inability to pay attention props? And shouldn't you save those props for yourself? 

Look kids, a bitter jerk. Pity him for he is sad.  

Baltimore McAllisterwrote:

An entire gym full of insecure men! Poor guys. You there to get strong or sit there and wonder if bro is micro aggressing you with his swoll chest? I go to the gym to climb, not worry about the percentages of which genders are there at any given moment. I just can’t imagine seeing the world through that lens, it seems exhausting.

He hardly said that at all. Specifically:

I remember many years ago first stepping into the gym that would become my home gym, anticipating a total sausage fest but being pleasantly surprised to see a near 50/50 gender balance among the patrons who were in to climb that evening.

So you've conflated a one time/first time experience with an entire life of seeing the world in a certain way.

Kevin Worrallwrote:

It’s “amok” btw

Um, if you're going to correct someone...

https://writingexplained.org/run-amok-vs-run-amuck-difference

"The phrase run amok is also sometimes spelled run amuck, which at one time was the predominant spelling."

Classic MP shit show.
If your gym allows you to go shirtless, enjoy.
If they don't, apparently, blame the women.

Just wear the shortest shorts you can fit in without falling out of. Maybe even just wear a shirt for pants. That'll definitely show them how ballsy you are. If thermal convection is the goal, a shirt on the bottom (or the shortest shorts) would counter the dreaded single ply breathable poly stretch shirt that's keeping you from sending that pink v4.

Whole thread is mp gold. Thanks everyone. I was a little down at work, but I’m feeling good now.
op: get a bandeau. I think you’ll be surprised how much it adds to your sendage as well as your sex appeal. No more scratched nips. I like that neon pink/orange that is so popular rn. Lululemon xl fits like a men’s medium. 

If wearing a shirt makes you sweat more, and the shirt is soaked with sweat, is that sweat less toxic because it has been “filtered”?

Or is the “ick” factor really only visual?

Last question: do cis gender white males even have an “ick” factor?

Kevin Worrallwrote:

If wearing a shirt makes you sweat more, and the shirt is soaked with sweat, is that sweat less toxic because it has been “filtered”?

Or is the “ick” factor really only visual?

Last question: do cis gender white males even have an “ick” factor?

Reportedly, it’s’ pretty variable gym to gym, Kevin. I can see you are a caring person. So your best bet is to ask random people at your gym. 

I, too, find women scary. Scary, confusing, and although I wish to get close to them it might reveal some things about myself I do not wish to learn.

Sorry, FEMALES.

Bill Lawrywrote:

Reportedly, it’s’ pretty variable gym to gym, Kevin. I can see you are a caring person. So your best bet is to ask random people at your gym. 

This is great advice for ya Kevin! Make sure to be as sweaty as possible and wearing the shortest of shortest, like you swiped them from the women's Love Island costume rack.

Pics too.

I don’t have a gym

Just trying to keep up with the directions “climbing” culture is going

Kindly spare me the advice and answer the question

Hint: (post limit) see OP

Kevin Worrallwrote:

I don’t have a gym

Just trying to keep up with the directions “climbing” culture is going

Kindly spare me the advice and answer the question

What was the question??? I thought we'd devolved to messin with each other? Sorry (ish) if jumped the gun....

Geez, it's page 5. 

Kevin Worrallwrote:

I don’t have a gym

Just trying to keep up with the directions “climbing” culture is going

Kindly spare me the advice and answer the question

Hint: (post limit) see OP

Because a sports bra is considered "shirt"