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RedRiverClimbing.com RIP

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Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Just thought it was worth mentioning, RIP RedRiverClimbing.com. You made all the locals hate everyone, and you gave all of us the best Miguel's pizza box dumpster fire anyone could have ever asked for. 

Leave your opinion for the new site, updates on the old, and of all the new lines that you hate because they're squeeze pile choss jobs so Turd Choppa knows where to find his next victim.

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,155
Matthew Jaggers wrote:

Just thought it was worth mentioning, RIP RedRiverClimbing.com. You made all the locals hate everyone, and you gave all of us the best Miguel's pizza box dumpster fire anyone could have ever asked for. 

Leave your opinion for the new site, updates on the old, and of all the piles that you hate because they're squeeze job choss piles so Turd Choppa knows where to find his next victim.

Noah Betz · · Beattyville, KY · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 49

One of the most hilarious train-wreck sites I’ve ever had the (dis?)pleasure of using, I always thought of it as the 4chan for climbing. The unbridled hatred, toxicity, and generally horrific comments reminded me of the early years of the internet. 

Isaac Steinbrunner · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 0

Thanks for starting this thread, I was surprised to be redirected when I tried to load the site earlier this week. Was this a surprise or was it announced previously?

I will also note that the forum still exists :https://www.redriverclimbing.com/index.php

Anyone know the history of how the forum became so dead? It seems like as recently as five years ago it was pretty active, but there hasn't been a single post in 2022. Not even about the site shutting down.

F r i t z · · North Mitten · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 1,155
Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

Anyone know the history of how the forum became so dead? 


A clique of Regina George hateful souls

Imprisoned in road cyclist insecure minds 

Marinating in the cirrhotic wastelands 

Of the Kentucky Good Ol' Boys Club.

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

Thanks for starting this thread, I was surprised to be redirected when I tried to load the site earlier this week. Was this a surprise or was it announced previously?

I will also note that the forum still exists :https://www.redriverclimbing.com/index.php

Anyone know the history of how the forum became so dead? It seems like as recently as five years ago it was pretty active, but there hasn't been a single post in 2022. Not even about the site shutting down.

Supposedly Facebook groups killed off the forum. 

The new site is pretty brutal. You can't click through on a lot of areas that seem easily hyperlinkable. Also, the load time on any choice is annoying. Id rather the spinning wheel be in the background instead of showing me how inefficient the site is.

Scott Curran · · Lexington, KY · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 507
Isaac Steinbrunner wrote:

Thanks for starting this thread, I was surprised to be redirected when I tried to load the site earlier this week. Was this a surprise or was it announced previously?

I will also note that the forum still exists :https://www.redriverclimbing.com/index.php

Anyone know the history of how the forum became so dead? It seems like as recently as five years ago it was pretty active, but there hasn't been a single post in 2022. Not even about the site shutting down.

Years ago the website used to direct you to a main page with options to access the forum, guidebooks, picture archive, history page, etc.  Around 5 years ago this main page was replaced with a version of the website where it was essentially just the guidebook page with drop down menus for the forum, etc.  Thus, the forum faded into obscurity since it was hidden in a drop down menu and trolls moved from the forum to the guidebook page.  

On the old version of the website there used to be a nice archive of the history of sport climbing at the red.  It seems that was lost though around 5 years ago unfortunately.

Dane B · · Chuff City · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 5

OG Red River Climbing will be missed. Some of the comments sections were absolute gold. I know plenty of people that would tick their routes and keep eyes on the leaderboard and their overall points. Sucks for them to lose that. The new site is terrible to boot

Jason W · · Lexington, KY · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 32
Scott Curran wrote:

Years ago the website used to direct you to a main page with options to access the forum, guidebooks, picture archive, history page, etc.  Around 5 years ago this main page was replaced with a version of the website where it was essentially just the guidebook page with drop down menus for the forum, etc.  Thus, the forum faded into obscurity since it was hidden in a drop down menu and trolls moved from the forum to the guidebook page.  

On the old version of the website there used to be a nice archive of the history of sport climbing at the red.  It seems that was lost though around 5 years ago unfortunately.

You can access it through the Way Back Machine. Not everything works, but it is fun to poke around the different years of the website.

Edit: Original link did not work. web.archive.org/web/2004080…

Ray Ellington · · Richmond, KY · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 0

Hey all, I migrated the site and all of its data over to a new platform that is WAY easier to maintain. It allows me to make code updates in one place and push out to both the app and the website. Hang in there with me though with the lack of features and decreased performance. I had to make the cut-over because it was becoming a pain in the ass to keep the website in sync with the app. 

Plus my bill with maintaining both the new platform (which hosted Foxtown bouldering) and the old RRC was getting pretty expensive. Rather than moving Foxtown over to an old school platform I decided to move RRC over to the new stuff. It'll get better, I promise. I've got some great help now too.

As far as the forum goes, yea it wasn't being used so I dropped it to the background as Scott Curran said above. Facebook kind of destroyed it. I do realize there may be some historical content in that old forum there people may want to see still so maybe I'll bring it back online under ogrrc.com or something. I can't do that with the old online guidebook though but all of that content is on the new site. Believe me, it's all there, I still have it, and I have a solid plan to bring back the functionality that's missing.

I used to have a "museum" of sorts with old guidebooks and stuff but I took that down because I was threatened with legal action for publishing a PDF of a super old guidebook and it freaked me out.

I've tried to be communicative about my plans for the site through the RRC Facebook account and my own Facebook account but I guess I couldn't reach everyone that way.

-Ray

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Thanks for the update, Ray. It already seems better than a few weeks ago, so I'm sure it'll all get ironed out. 

LL2 · · Santa Fe, NM · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 174

I guess I'm glad I never clicked it.

Lauren Fallsoffrocks · · A beach with climbing · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 333

Using the new site is like waiting on dial-up in the 90s. 

Ray Ellington · · Richmond, KY · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 0
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Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695

Lol

Danny Dee · · Djibouti, DJ · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 140

I miss the old red river 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Danny Dee wrote:

I miss the old red river 

Where the trolls were the Admins? It was a place of wonder, for sure.

Danny Dee · · Djibouti, DJ · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 140
Matthew Jaggers wrote:

Where the trolls were the Admins? It was a place of wonder, for sure.

Gotta love it for what it is. Too bad people are so easily offended these days 

Arthur Cammers · · Lexington, KY · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 126

Anonymous killed RRC.com. People have to be who they say that they are or flame comes out of both ends and this destroys dialogue. 

Mike Wilkinson · · Lexington, KY · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 733

+1 for having the old forum content available, there's definitely some cool info in there. (I tried the wayback link above and unfortunately it didn't contain the posts I was trying to dig into)

Happy to make a donation as well Ray if that would help with hosting costs and such. Thanks for keeping a record of all of this!

Jesse James · · Knoxville, TN · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 632

Is the app available for Android users?  I don't see it in the Google play store...

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern States
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