Eliminate alias user names.

nope you are wrong. 

Claudine Longet wrote:

My real name has been permabanned here

Gee, I wonder why.

ubu wrote:

There are lots of good reasons for using an alias on MP, Jamila's case being a great example.  I have my own reasons for using an alias that involve potential work-related issues, and it's not hard to imagine other concerns.  Forcing real names is a bad idea.

I agree, but at least restrict allowable characters to alphanumerics, so we don't get morons using just a period, comma, or space as their user name.

Gee Dubble wrote:

Eliminate alias user names.
Display the real name of MP user. Or
make the real names available on request.

Thanks 

Greg Collins

Facebook is the only entity I know of stupid enough to request their users use real names. I’m sure onX is not so clueless.

I am uncertain that this would further the Common Good. 

Claudine Longet wrote:

My real name has been permabanned here

I'm quite certain that decision was made with the utmost care and discernment by learned men of letters. 

Gee Dubble wrote:

Any tips for transferring data to 27Crags.com ?

I just looked at 27....good AI gear suggestions!

Is it a great idea, Greg? What is it that Apple fails to understand, but which so many clearly get?

Your privacy should not be protected!? It is to be sold, stolen, or shared by major corporations, criminals, employers,   governments, credit agencies, nutjob stalkers, and every other yahoo who would love nothing more than to have you let down your guard when it comes to online privacy. 

Additionally, if you think for one minute that the phenomenon or practice of publicly rejecting, boycotting, or ending support for particular people or groups because of their socially or morally "unacceptable" views or actions isn't a real threat for some people, then get your head out of the sand. It is. 

What problem is so great that you must know who is posting? Admins can take care of trolls. Who will put your interests first? 

The online world is full of fools giving away their personal information at great expense to themselves and a great profit to others. 

Go ahead, give Mark Z., MP, 27crags, and everyone else all your private information. Let them track your every move, purchase, fetish, or whatever. It is free money to them. And it can hurt you. 

As an extreme example, for some, in places like China, it may cost you your freedom or your life. 

I defend online privacy for all who want it except morally-bankrupt corporations, 2-faced politicians, criminals, and the like..

Best regards. 

SinRopa wrote:

Anyone know if there is any relationship or arrangement between MP/OnX and a company called PeopleDataLabs?  The burner email I use solely for MP has been getting some very targeted emails from PDL that sound geared towards someone who has a climbing/outdoor business (which I do not) and who wants to gain info on their user/customer base.  

Their site talks how they've gathered the "resume, contact, social, and demographic information for over 2.5 billion unique individuals" that companies can use "to enrich recruiting platforms, power AI models, create custom audiences, and more."

Probably from one of the other sites you regularly visit.  

Gee Dubble wrote:

To your earlier comments; u wouldn’t want the

 storm troopers beating u on the night of long knifes. Let them come to power, be anonymous

Storm Troopers posting on MP and hiding behind their anonymity. God help us.

Of all the 1st-world problems, climbers using pseudonyms is truly on the very bottom of the list. 

Honestly, your valuable input will be missed if you jump ship to 27crags.com. I won't be going there. It's just another site trying to copy MP but with Facebook's evilness. 

Not Hobo Greg wrote:

What about those of us who are more well known by our monikers?

Like 'free pass at the gym' kind of known or just posts a lot on the webz kind of known?

M M wrote:

Like 'free pass at the gym' kind of known or just posts a lot on the webz kind of known?

Like this weirdo?

Random Climber

New Jersey! How did I guess?

Not Hobo Greg wrote:

What about those of us who are more well known by our monikers?

I would definitely  think less of Hobo Greg if he used any other name.

Collins has yet to expand on why he needs to know everyone's name. It usually boils down to a more 'civil' tone from posters but this site isn't exactly a hornet's nest of incivility. 

Even Mr. Collins takes his turn at mocking others so not sure if real names furthers the civility. And, usually, all you get is an echo chamber of moderated and like-minded voices instead of honest opinions that some may take offense to but which may have true value.

Teton Climber wrote:

I would definitely  think less of Hobo Greg if he used any other name.

Collins has yet to expand on why he needs to know everyone's name. It usually boils down to a more 'civil' tone from posters but this site isn't exactly a hornet's nest of incivility. 

Even Mr. Collins takes his turn at mocking others so not sure if real names furthers the civility. And, usually, all you get is an echo chamber of moderated and like-minded voices instead of honest opinions that some may take offense to but which may have true value.

Having been in various net discussion groups for the past 3 decades, real names vs aliases makes zero difference in on-line civility.

Having been in various net discussion groups for the past 3 decades, real names vs aliases makes zero difference in on-line civility.

I would agree because it is so easy to use a pseudonym on most sites. 

If real names were verified, many would simply not participate. Too many pitfalls for some. Even the US Copyright Office allows the use of “pseudonymous” names.

The most popular excuse for requiring real names is civility unless your portal is Linkedin or something similar. Obviously, your real identity is also worth money to many people like data collectors, advertisers, etc.

Greg Collins has yet to tell us why he needs to know everyone's name.  Perhaps he just wanted to advertise for 27crags.com which wants to be the Cheers Bar of climbing sites.

What's next? Skin color?

ubu wrote:

Forcing real names is a bad idea.

Besides, there are plenty of people here who use their real names and still act like asshats...

There’s been an infusion of new users lately that get very aggressive about certain topics. I find it hard to believe that they’re brand new to mountain project because of the way it seems they ‘know’ certain posters. As into it as people get here, most conversations have some civility guard rails because we are also here to look for partners, contribute and research routes, share photos, and trade gear with the community. i know that i’ve been called out at times for being over involved in some discussions, but users that create an alias to troll other climbers on the forums is just wrong. i would not want to use my real name on the forums because of messages i’ve received - but i would trust mountain project to require a cell phone number of all users to help confirm that there is only one account per user.  that could help keep the forums more civil. 

petzl logic wrote:

There’s been an infusion of new users lately that get very aggressive about certain topics. I find it hard to believe that they’re brand new to mountain project because of the way it seems they ‘know’ certain posters. As into it as people get here, most conversations have some civility guard rails because we are also here to look for partners, contribute and research routes, share photos, and trade gear with the community. i know that i’ve been called out at times for being over involved in some discussions, but users that create an alias to troll other climbers on the forums is just wrong. i would not want to use my real name on the forums because of messages i’ve received - but i would trust mountain project to require a cell phone number of all users to help confirm that there is only one account per user.  that could help keep the forums more civil. 

Scandalous! Which accounts are suss????