Help identifying old cam

I bootied a cam yesterday, and upon inspection cannot for the life of me determine what it is.

It's a small, single axle cam, pretty close in size to a BD 0.4. The only marking on it is "CLIMB" that seems engraved on the formerly anodized aluminum trigger. The only other identifier is a logo on the sling itself, but it could have been reslung, and given the colors I would guess that it has been.

My best bet is a homemade cam or a Chinese knockoff of a friend or something similar. Any insight would be appreciated!

Looks like the pagan mountaineering (in Moab) logo on the sling. No idea on the cam

Can we get a picture of the lobes?

Paging Marc...rgold...etc...

Doctor Drake wrote:

Can we get a picture of the lobes?

Here you go. 

Matt Castelli wrote:

Looks like the pagan mountaineering (in Moab) logo on the sling. No idea on the cam

Did Pagan resling cams? I'm an east coaster so I'm not familiar. I just called and they said they didn't, but they could have at one point I guess.

Tyler Newcomb wrote:

Here you go. 

Edit: Well I did a bunch of digging around in google images and Wildcountry PDFs but couldn’t find anything that remotely looked like that. Maybe it’s an esoteric Eastern European creation? 

Interesting. I’m not a gear historian in the slightest, so literally everything I’m saying is speculation at best.

Some things I’ve noticed:

The metal collar that combines the axle with the stem is something seen on Aliens and all their knockoffs (X4s, Mastercams, etc.). Similarly, the stem and thumb loop and swage all look like they came from an Alien. Wagering a guess it came out after the original CCH Aliens did? The plastic sleeve on the stem looks like a potential precursor to what we see now on the C4s.

The lobes initially struck me as Wildcountry-esque (teeth, shape) and the more I think about it, the more I get the feeling that this might be Wildcountry’s early stab at an Alien clone? The tech-friends were the light cams, so maybe this was the burlier C4 type came to complement them? The aluminum trigger is definitely interesting, haven’t seen that before, wouldn’t surprise me if it were a weird thing WC wanted to try. HB/DMM and Metolius had quad cams with a metal ring you could put one finger in to pull with, maybe this was WC’s way of competing?

I'd guess the side of the trigger opposite of "climb" might say "max" or "axe," meaning it's a Climbaxe/Climbmax, and would explain the Pagan logo on the sling, too.

Edit: yep, climbaxe garbage

Nathan E wrote:

I'd guess the side of the trigger opposite of "climb" might say "max" or "axe," meaning it's a Climbaxe/Climbmax, and would explain the Pagan logo on the sling, too.

Edit: yep, climbaxe garbage

 

Where did you find that? I I did an exact google search for "Climb Axe Flexi-Cam - NEW!" and got nothing 

Tyler Newcomb wrote:

Where did you find that? I I did an exact google search for "Climb Axe Flexi-Cam - NEW!" and got nothing 

Using the internet archive WaybackMachine.  I remember these were sold on acme/pagangear.com in the mid 2000s along with the Climbaxe u-stem and rigid stem cams.  

I've actually been thinking lately how I'd like to get ahold of one of the largest #5 rigid stems, mostly as a novelty.  

Nathan E wrote:

I've actually been thinking lately how I'd like to get ahold of one of the largest #5 rigid stems, mostly as a novelty.  

Me too, that is the reason why I saved this picture found on the Internet a long while ago.   

If I am not mistaken, it would be the only #5 with a hot forged rigid stem.