Harness with the most gear loop space, but all in one row
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Shane Rosanbalm wrote: One hack that I've used in the past is to add a 5th loop using 7mm accessory cord. I just tied barrel knots to span the gap between the rear gear loops. It hangs a bit lower than the corresponding 5th loop on the Adjama, but you can't beat the price. You can even melt the cord ends if you're worried about the knots coming untied. i stitched a cut up dyneema sling straight to my harness |
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Anonymous wrote: There is also a Renegade Pro 2 version. It has "threadback" buckles (double pass), vs "slidelock" buckles (quick adjust), if such things interest you. I'm leaning toward the Renegade because I've been really happy with the quality of the other DMM items I've bought. Why would one want the thread back buckles--isn't that just another thing to remember? My very first gym harness was a thread back buckle and I was glad they had invented the quick adjust buckles by the time I got my second. |
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David Kerkeslager wrote: DMM's hard goods are solid quality but their soft goods are really sub par. I have seen gear loops break and the construction is literally just a slab of foam. |
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From the copy on the page it sounds like the benefit they champion is the ability to easily remove the webbing strap from the buckle, for use with heavy winter clothing or when wearing crampons/skis. |
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Z Winters wrote: So i found a picture of someone measuring the loops on the Technician, size medium here. The overall spread of the front two gear loops is 7", and i measured my BD Big gun and Aspect (which are size Large). The loops are the same size as on my Big Gun, the aspect has about 1/2" more usable space on each side, the overall spread is about 7.5". |
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Anonymous wrote: I do either when starting a pitch, been doing gates out more often lately because it does lay better with the unsupported loops and flat spine. When following I'll usually go gates out because it's easier to clip a biner and give that slight tug down to ensure its seated when you have to put gear on blindly. |
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Nick Drake wrote: Don’t you mean gates in when following? |
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No amount of online discussion is a substitute for going in to the store and looking at the harnesses, it would seem. Looking at the harnesses in question, it became immediately obvious that the Petzl harnesses had more loop space--the DMM Renegade has more loops, but they're all really small. I actually ended up going with the Petzl Corax--the loops are about the same as the Adjama but the harness adjusts on both sides so I can keep the loops symmetrical on each side. I'm psyched to get on some crack climbs with the new harness in T-Wall after Christmas. :) |
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Marc801 C wrote: No I did mean gates out, with the loops that fold flat going gates in it's easy to snag a shirt/belt/pant with the nose of the biner and miss the loop going gate in. With gate out you can slide the nose of the gate under the plastic loop and are less likely to have clothes get in the way. On moderate terrain with easy stance it doesn't make any difference to me though, really just when I'm clipping it back on blindly. |
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Larry S wrote: Have you considered the BD Technician? I have 2 of the older version (Aspect), and I like it quite a bit. I used to use a BD Big-Gun (Their Wall harness), and I wanted a harness that carried my rack as well, but wasn't so bulky. I love the rear (5th) gear loop on my harnesses, that's where all the belay stuff goes, and why i got the Aspect... device, locker, nut tool, cordolette, gloves, etc all out of the way in the back. I typically carry 13 cams, 2 biners of nuts, a set of tricams, and 12 alpine draws on the harness, and, while it's croweded, i've no issue with it. On my Technician due to it being a smaller size the reamost loop is no bigger that a haul loop, the only thing that i can put on it is a chalk bag and a knife. |
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The new bd long haul harness is probably going to offer the most usable racking space of any harness, finally someone has remembered the correct way to do a rear gear loop, high and out of the way. https://www.rei.com/product/221873/black-diamond-long-haul-harness |
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that guy named seb wrote: That is very promising, I was wondering why the big gun was on clearance but this seems to be the explanation. I can be the only one who thinks the red on black look stupid. Thanks for sharing Seb |
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FWIW I've spent some time in that BD harness and think it’s pretty great. |
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Rprops wrote: Can you expand on that and maybe compare it to some other harnesses? Swami now appears to be a fat slab of foam but the leg loops look no where near as beefy. |
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I did a wall in a borrowed one. Felt low profile, not bulky, comfortable, ample loop space. I think it would be versatile for trad, aid, developing etc. |
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The new Petzl Aquila has slightly overlapping lips; the front loop is general and stiffened, and the rear loops are the same size but dipped forward to create more space. Then also a fifth loop at the spine and a tag loop. https://m.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Harnesses/AQUILA |
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Adam Fleming wrote: They really a disappointing I have a technician reco and I bought it thinking that the rear extra loop would be nice but because I am a size small it tiny and hangs way to low. also the loops dont stick out far enough so they get mashed into my hips. An it hurts my lower ribs like hell to do a hanging belay in it. Thanks for letting me let off some steam! |
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I have the Petzl Adjama and generally like it a lot, especially having quite a bit of gear space for my growing trad rack. I've never noticed any discomfort. My biggest gripe with it is that my waist size often results in the loops being slightly to significantly offset in relation to belay loop. I really wish it was possible to slide the waist belt or have a second waist buckle to keep the whole thing nicely centered as I add layers underneath or put on pounds. |