Creating a training schedule around shift work

aikibujin wrote:

I agree, I obviously miss out on movement practice when ARCing on a hangboard. But I wouldn't be training on a hangboard if I had the choice to train on a wall.

Oh I was simply agreeing with you that there’s more than physiological, not arguing that you had a bad idea. 

I did read read the original post, I don’t think that an ARC style session on the hangboard is best application. Unless aerobic capacity is a huge weakness. I’d take the time to do regular old repeaters 

Nick Drake wrote:

Oh I was simply agreeing with you that there’s more than physiological, not arguing that you had a bad idea. 

I did read read the original post, I don’t think that an ARC style session on the hangboard is best application. Unless aerobic capacity is a huge weakness. I’d take the time to do regular old repeaters 

Ok, then we agree that we're in agreement, haha.

I also read the OP. As someone who has done many, many 60-min ARCing sessions on a hangboard, I'd like to think that there was an explosion of capillaries in my forearms, but the reality was not so. I know Eric Horst and Neil Gresham both advocated ARCing type of workout on a hangboard, which is why I tried it in the first place. But I noticed absolutely no benefit in my forearm aerobic endurance after doing that for months. I wonder if Horst and Gresham actually tried this themselves (Horst has a pretty nice home gym setup, I can't see him needing to ARC on a hangboard), or if they thought it worked based purely on logic (and it does sound very logical). Mike Anderson is the only high-level climber that I've heard that actually did ARC on a hangboard, and he thought it was helpful. But he also has much higher base fitness than I do, so maybe ARCing on the hangboard was enough for him to maintain his base, while my base is so small it did nothing for me.

aikibujin wrote:

Ok, then we agree that we're in agreement, haha.

I also read the OP. As someone who has done many, many 60-min ARCing sessions on a hangboard, I'd like to think that there was an explosion of capillaries in my forearms, but the reality was not so. I know Eric Horst and Neil Gresham both advocated ARCing type of workout on a hangboard, which is why I tried it in the first place. But I noticed absolutely no benefit in my forearm aerobic endurance after doing that for months. I wonder if Horst and Gresham actually tried this themselves (Horst has a pretty nice home gym setup, I can't see him needing to ARC on a hangboard), or if they thought it worked based purely on logic (and it does sound very logical). Mike Anderson is the only high-level climber that I've heard that actually did ARC on a hangboard, and he thought it was helpful. But he also has much higher base fitness than I do, so maybe ARCing on the hangboard was enough for him to maintain his base, while my base is so small it did nothing for me.

your line of thinking makes sense to me! I dunno if hangboard ARC helped me much either tbh.....really absolutely not sure ARCing in general did much for me (I'd like to THINK it did more than just refine technique but then again I can't be sure).

I know stamina training/interval type workouts did a LOT for me, but then we're in PE training and removed from the theoretical gains ARC can give. Theoretical gains...