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Rope system analysis - forces involved

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John McNamee · · Littleton, CO · Joined Jul 2002 · Points: 1,690

If you have time here is a link to Rope systems analysis and inparticular about the forces involved.

amrg.org/Rope_system_analys…

John J. Glime · · Cottonwood Heights, UT · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 1,160

Wow... after reading that, suddenly climbing seems really dangerous. How come more people aren't dying???

John McNamee · · Littleton, CO · Joined Jul 2002 · Points: 1,690

Year, it's a real reality check isn't it!

brenta · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 75

The main limitations of that analysis are that it is almost exclusively focused on the case in which the rope does not slip through the belay device; and that it is based on no experimental data. From what I remember reading, when a tube belay device is used, even rather serious falls seldom generate a force exceeding the rating of a mid-size cam (say, greater than 10 kN).

Ron Olsen · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 11,335

Lots of math, but the recommendations are worth noting:

  • Build your anchors to withstand 25 kN (5500 lb) when possible.
  • If you are going to use wire chocks and cams that have a typical strength of 2000 lbs, then don’t lead out more than 1/4 the belayed rope
  • Never exceed your climbing abilities on a big wall climb. Test your skills at a rock gym, on bolted routes, or under top-roped conditions.
  • Use only ‘new’ ropes for lead climbing. To protect against shock loading of the anchors, use a rope with a low modulus or impact force rating.
  • Use a dynamic belay device.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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