BD Magnetron push to revival!

highaltitudeflatulentexpulsionwrote:

I had one, it was fine. I lost it and ended up replacing it with something else, it is also fine.

True enough, it just needs to reliably lock. My biggest surprise with them was I thought they’d be super finicky and prone to gumming up in the locking mechanism and that was not the case.

The best explanation I saw for some folks really liking them was the ease of one-handed operation.

Despite any amount of demand it's likely the primary reason we will never see magnetrons may be due to current geopolitical tensions. Magnets come from China, rare earth metals, supply chains, tarrifs, etc, why build a product that is likely to be squarely in the line of fire of trade wars. 

I had no idea that BD used rare earth metals in their magnets. 

Graham Johnsonwrote:

I had no idea that BD used rare earth metals in their magnets. 

All permanent magnets use rare earth metals, the small strong ones that BD use are most likely Neodymium. 

I’ll sell these used Magnetrons for $55/both or $30/each, plus mailing. The bigger one has some of a groove forming, but, looking ahead, it can handle a lot of potential use. Each has excellent action  

George Bracksieckwrote:

I’ll sell these used Magnetrons for $55/both or $30/each, plus mailing. The bigger one has some of a groove forming, but, looking ahead, it can handle a lot of potential use. Each has excellent action  

Pmd

My Magnetrons have sold. 

Forgive me if I'm wrong here because I haven't used a BD Magnetron before but is it essentially a slider style locking carabiner except there's action needed on both sides of the gate with your fingers?

The Edelrid Pure Slider would seem to operate fairly similarly if that's the case, they're great and they're easy to operate one handed.

Cosmic Hotdogwrote:

Forgive me if I'm wrong here because I haven't used a BD Magnetron before but is it essentially a slider style locking carabiner except there's action needed on both sides of the gate with your fingers?

The Edelrid Pure Slider would seem to operate fairly similarly if that's the case, they're great and they're easy to operate one handed.

You’re very correct but with three caveats, the first one is that the slider has the mechanism on the front of the gate versus the sides, which requires you to fully wrap your hand around the biner. Having come from using the Sm’d twist lock, the slider took a bit to get used to and I actually started opening it with my pointer finger around the back versus my thumb. I have one and I like it a lot but it’s just something to get used to. 2, the slider is a good enough locker, but in a situation you want a full locker I’d say the magnetron is a good bit more secure. And three, I’m a huge nerd, and like nerdy shit, and to me the magnetrons are so cool to me that I have been searching for some for a while if just to play with. It’s hard to justify the price, but I can be honest that part of why I love them is solely they are just really cool to me. 

Caleb Hilswrote:

You’re very correct but with three caveats, the first one is that the slider has the mechanism on the front of the gate versus the sides, which requires you to fully wrap your hand around the biner. Having come from using the Sm’d twist lock, the slider took a bit to get used to and I actually started opening it with my pointer finger around the back versus my thumb. I have one and I like it a lot but it’s just something to get used to. 2, the slider is a good enough locker, but in a situation you want a full locker I’d say the magnetron is a good bit more secure. And three, I’m a huge nerd, and like nerdy shit, and to me the magnetrons are so cool to me that I have been searching for some for a while if just to play with. It’s hard to justify the price, but I can be honest that part of why I love them is solely they are just really cool to me. 

Makes total sense to me dude, thanks for explaining! As one nerd to another, I can definitely respect that.   

Echoing Caleb on every point. I am neurodivergent and really like sensory tools and fidgets. Magnetrons tickle my sensory needs like whoa. They’re very satisfying to play with.

In a HowNot2 short, Tommy Caldwell (who is a part owner of the company) jokes that the Edelrid sliders are his favorite lockers but that they’re no where near as safe as regular lockers. “They’re like two thirds of a locker” he jokes. They open very easily, and in my experience, get sticky very easily such that they sometimes don’t close under normal use. Super convenient and easy to use though. 

Slim Pickenswrote:

Echoing Caleb on every point. I am neurodivergent and really like sensory tools and fidgets. Magnetrons tickle my sensory needs like whoa. They’re very satisfying to play with.

In a HowNot2 short, Tommy Caldwell (who is a part owner of the company) jokes that the Edelrid sliders are his favorite lockers but that they’re no where near as safe as regular lockers. “They’re like two thirds of a locker” he jokes. They open very easily, and in my experience, get sticky very easily such that they sometimes don’t close under normal use. Super convenient and easy to use though. 

I have a slider I use with a grigri.

It hasn't completely closed on its own since it got a few weeks use. So now I just force it closed then it clicks and it's fine. It's essentially the same thing as a screw gate carabiner since it still requires a second check to ensure it's locked. I suppose I can do all that with one hand but it's not a distinct advantage over anything else.

I love Maggies. I own 8, 4 are still brand new.... Cleaning them if youre one to chuck you gear on the ground is critical.
Ferrous aggregate can make them sticky or in rare occasions get stuck. Silly putty works great for removing that crap IME. I bet a hot glue peel would do similar.

However, these seem pretty neat from Grivel, and they're on sale! Seems like a decent competitor for the slider.

I’d really like to acknowledge that we all should be sending them messages because it’s nothing off our skin but we could potentially get these beauties back on the market, again, let a dreamer dream 

It's quite funny that almost every comment is telling Caleb to stop caring or that the magnetrons actually suck or that there are plenty of alternatives. All of those might be true, but people are still spending up to $70 for these carabiners and I regularly see pros using them even years past them being discontinued. 

Where are those people in this thread?

Cedric Salvadorwrote:

people are still spending up to $70 for these carabiners and I regularly see pros using them even years past them being discontinued. 

Where are those people in this thread?

They are out climbing

Cedric Salvadorwrote:

It's quite funny that almost every comment is telling Caleb to stop caring or that the magnetrons actually suck or that there are plenty of alternatives. All of those might be true, but people are still spending up to $70 for these carabiners and I regularly see pros using them even years past them being discontinued. 

Where are those people in this thread?

I think this is a good point, and aside from the unlikelihood that they would actually bring it back, ignoring the financial side of it, does it really hurt you to take 5 minutes to send them a message. Companies listen to people, and it just might work with this

Cosmic Hotdogwrote:

Forgive me if I'm wrong here because I haven't used a BD Magnetron before but is it essentially a slider style locking carabiner except there's action needed on both sides of the gate with your fingers?

The Edelrid Pure Slider would seem to operate fairly similarly if that's the case, they're great and they're easy to operate one handed.

I have one I use with a GriGri at the gym. You're welcome to fondle it next time we see eachother ;-)

Dennis Maywrote:

I have one I use with a GriGri at the gym. You're welcome to fondle it next time we see eachother ;-)

I'm ready to ogle it in awe, along with your Ohmega while I continue to eternally wait for my backorder to ship haha

Cedric Salvadorwrote:

It's quite funny that almost every comment is telling Caleb to stop caring or that the magnetrons actually suck or that there are plenty of alternatives. All of those might be true, but people are still spending up to $70 for these carabiners and I regularly see pros using them even years past them being discontinued. 

Where are those people in this thread?

Or the beginning making me think that magnetrons were on their way back to the market and making me feel crazy I couldn’t find any literature