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Tal. I love slab climbing I see you have me blocked from that thread. If I did something To Offend You I apologize??? at least let me know what it was. Nick |
Nick Goldsmithwrote: Nick …… so you’re blocked??? I didn’t know that was even possible. WTH? |
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Ya. Must have said something stupid somewhere.. and I can't dm him to straighten it out. |
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Lame if you were, in fact, blocked from the thread. Seems like you’d remember if you said something totally egregious. |
Guy Keeseewrote: Guy, people cannot respond to a thread you start if you have them marked as "ignore User". There's nothing necessarily unkind about it - I have some people that I am sure are very nice people marked "Ignore User" because they post a lot and I'm typically not interested in their content. It's just a filtering mechanism to me. |
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Phyl, yes it can be as simple as you state....if you never are the one who originates a thread, and never want any personal messages from that person. Nick, that's sad you are blocked from that thread! Betcha have some awesome pics! FWIW, Tal also has me blocked, lol! One of my most fun outings ever, was on Suncup slab, at City of Rocks. On a 5.5! If, like me, you get to climb with really strong climbers, sooner or later my top rope self gets to hop on Don't Fall climbs over there. Almost always "easy".....but I'm plenty happy to be on a rope that's doing something for me. Suncup, was the absolutely most useless belay I've ever seen. Just a rope getting fed through a belay device, as our lead just hiked on up. Pretty much no pro, and no info in advance either, except what the book had. So the noobiest noob (his gf at the time) put him on belay, and the next noobiest (me) kept an eye on her.  Those are trees below, not bushes. This was also my first ever single line rappel. Helen |
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Jesus Christ this is a frustrating thread. Phylp nailed it - as per usual. I just ignore people who I’m not interested in routinely seeing their contributions from. I’m sure everyone I have ignored is a wonderful person. I’ve even privately talked with many of them and would happily get out with them in person - some people are just different online. I have plenty of real life friends muted on other social media platforms and vice versa. To think that you’re entitled to be acknowledged by every person is…certainly a choice. For transparency, here’s my full ignore list (OLH, notably, you are not present here, though many people have been added to and later removed from this list over the years)  I’m only responding in this space because I have had eight (8!!!) separate individuals send me this thread, and the fact that this is now some strange parasocial community being built in it is making me profoundly uncomfortable. I’m extremely online - there’s a million, easily found ways to get ahold of me if you can’t do it through MP. OR - you could come to terms with the fact that there’s 8 billion people in the world and one person not wanting to acknowledge what you have to say in this moment isn’t a statement of your own intrinsic value or who you are as a person, and let it go. Either way, please do not do whatever this is again. |
Nick Goldsmithwrote: This is such a profoundly entitled and odd way to respond to someone you’ve never met not immediately engaging with you on the internet. You seem to consistently be a negative presence on this platform, consider introspection and time outdoors. |
phylp phylpwrote: Phylp…. Thank you for the clue. It’s great to know new things. And now armed with information I can comment. Have a nice day tal |
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Tanner. I assumed that tal blocked me from that thread because I must have offended him somehow. I apologized for that not even knowing what it was. Have we as a society gone so far south that apologizing for offending someone is now considered weird and worthy of insulting people? the fact that you got 8 likes for saying something mean and disparaging to someone for offering a public apology to someone on an open public platform seems to confirm that we have in fact sunk into the gutter. BTW I could not DM tal because he has me blocked so this was the only way I knew how to offer an apology. Seeing his snarky response it's all good. I don't need to engage with mean people. This is however a public forum and you don't own a thread just because you started it. they take on their own vitural momentum and go where they go unless you are a control freak and nuke it if it doesn't go exactly the way you intended.. |
Tanner Jameswrote: I have to disagree with you on this one. Seeming cranky at times, sure. Opinionated? Sure. But, Nick is a steady contributor in the Over 50 threads, probably the longest running "conversation" on MP. And he definitely contributes. Lots. Including, if nothing else, whatever he's been up to out in the cold. See, he is an ice climber, so that alone is a pretty high value contribution, since so few of us climb ice (I have, btw, it's one of my favorite "I have, you haven't" things I'm pleased to throw at people, lol!) But see, Nick is also a professional photographer. By some weird alignment of the fates, we have at least 3 pretty damn good photos over in our old farts thread, so it's terrific, imo. Anyway. You got an apology. And, apparently Tal has taken me back off being blocked. The bad part about "ignore user" is that person cannot reply in any threads that the ignorer starts on here. To me, that aspect short changes everyone else on here, as threads often entirely outlive whoever started them in the first place. It's subtle, but it is then more than just not having to see posts from people you don't want to see. It affects the rest of the community Which brings me to an interesting question, which perhaps should be posted to the MP bosses (hi Zander!)?? I posted a page, to add in Suncup slab up above. If someone has me on their ignore list, would they then not see database type entries? Or do they get to benefit from my public contribution.....while not wanting me to speak in their presence? Hmmmmm...... Please insert provocateur emoji here, lol! @Tal, I was saddened when I discovered I couldn't reply, here and there, but not because I'm some snowflake. Because I actually had an answer to a question someone posed, or, had a complement I would have delivered. But, spring approaches. Hopefully all of us will get out climbing days, in our respective seasons. And hopefully the west isn't in flames this year. That, I think we can all agree on. Helen |
Nick Goldsmithwrote: What you’re doing is the equivalent of taking out a city’s worth of billboards to try and track someone down because they didn’t take a flyer you were handing out. Let it go |
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As someone who struggles to set and maintain healthy boundaries I just want to say that Tal just put on a master class of how to do it politely and effectively. I understand where others in this thread (especially Helen) are coming from, but ultimately Tal doesn't owe anyone anything and he is consistently respectful, helpful, and kind. Thank you, Tal, for everything that you do for climbing and this shitshow of a forum. You contribute far more than most, and however frustrating you may find this thread, your response is truly magnificent and an example for many like me who struggle with these sort of interactions to follow. Keep on keepin' on. I am certain I am not the only one who looks up to you and looks to you in many ways for how we should go about things in both climbing and life. |
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Hi Helen,  |
Zander Göpfertwrote: Thanks! And, as always, thanks for your cat herding efforts here! I think that list also includes not being able to contact the person, or did that change? I did ignore user to the generic "this thread has been locked" entity, at one point. The Over 50s getting closed when full, lol! But I have an odd sense of humor. H. |
Zander Göpfertwrote: I think the first two are totally fine but the third shouldn't be there. Ignore should mean ignore -- you don't see their stuff. Blocking someone's ability to post is a different thing altogether. The OP shouldn't own the thread. Ricky, if you think this is a shitshow of a forum... well then I applaud you for ignoring pretty all other forums on the internet. MP is astonishingly well mannered by most standards, and even by its own standards from the early days. I think most pre-2010 join dates would agree MP used to be a much rowdier place. |
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Alright Tal… you can’t hide from Nick forever. And Nick, maybe Tal just doesn’t like your botched acronyms er somethin(IMYHOP (er however u do em) they’re cool ;) )…I dunno It’s time you two solve this shit like men in the ring - in tights  may the best man win |
Mike Larsonwrote: Ok, maybe not a curry diarrhea shit show, but it's at least a dried dog shit at the volleyball court kinda shit show. Or maybe a day 11 of a Peter Zabrok wall in his paper Trader Joe's bag kind of shit show. There's degrees to shit shows, y'know? And the proj is definitely one of them |
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I can't believe I didn't make this list, WTH! |
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I think it’s hilarious people still have tradi on the shit list, years after the account has been deactivated. He really left fools shaking in thier boots with his rage bait. A master. The best |
ZT Gwrote: Or maybe people thought "that guy's annoying, don't need him in my life" and then never thought about him again? Think you're reading into this way too much |
