THE MAMUT TRION 50L

Guys, what do you think about mammut Trion 50L for  2-3days alpine climbing?

Also, I already have 38L Trion for 1-2days multi pitch climbing.

Or, let me know if you have any other better bags

And, if anyone has tried this, please leave a review.

THANK YOU!

Mammut generally makes decent stuff but I always find their pack design slightly underwhelming and not up-to-date with current developments. For example, those axe attachments would suck with Nomics or similar tools. 

I've owned 3 versions, great pack. Does have hotspots if loaded too heavy. Do your best to pack it evenly and shouldn't be a problem 

Victor Machtelwrote:

Mammut generally makes decent stuff but I always find their pack design slightly underwhelming and not up-to-date with current developments. For example, those axe attachments would suck with Nomics or similar tools. 

Really?

I didn’t use that bag in winter.

I didn’t know that.

Thanks! I will test that in winter.

THE WINTER IS COOOMMINGG

I have the trion 15, largely like the bag asides from the shit ice axe loops as mentioned above. However the build quality, specifically the finishing of the stitches, is abysmal - the stitches just fall apart. I've warrantied mine twice and ultimately have had to go over every single stitch ending on the bag with a lighter to stop them from pulling apart. 

I have used the older version of the Trio 50L for the last 4-5 years. I've used it for several 4-5 day trips and it handles it fine, though it's not the most comfortable when fully loaded. For traverses where all of your moving is done with the pack fully loaded, I'd look for something that carries better, but for basecamp trips I've been perfectly happy. Mine started falling apart last season and I need a replacement for the coming winter season, but I think I've ruled out replacing it with a new Trion 50L. They've made several changes to the pack and none of them seem like improvements. 

• Ice axe attachments are worse + leave the picks exposed
• Got rid of the hip pocket and gear loop
• Got rid of the stretch pockets on both sides (useful for carrying pickets, collapsable poles, etc.)
• All straps seem to have gotten skinnier. I have to imagine this is noticeable when the pack is fully loaded

And they didn't fix any of my gripes with the version I have:

• Avy tools pocket eats into the same volume as the main compartment, which is very annoying when you are fully loading the pack for a multi-day trip
• The radio clips on the shoulder are not very sturdy, and they are way too close to your face. There is not a good way to add a water bottle holder to the shoulder strap either. 

At least they kept the stretchy shoulder pockets for snacks/sunscreen... 

I've been using a couple Mammut Trions the past few years and would not associate them with durability. On both packs, most functions have ripped off or the material around the stitching ripped through, including ice tool pick covers, side and top straps, back panel wire stays, transitions between nylon and abrasion parts, etc. I don't think them worth the price point.

Jordan Rogerswrote:

I have used the older version of the Trio 50L for the last 4-5 years. I've used it for several 4-5 day trips and it handles it fine, though it's not the most comfortable when fully loaded. For traverses where all of your moving is done with the pack fully loaded, I'd look for something that carries better, but for basecamp trips I've been perfectly happy. Mine started falling apart last season and I need a replacement for the coming winter season, but I think I've ruled out replacing it with a new Trion 50L. They've made several changes to the pack and none of them seem like improvements. 

• Ice axe attachments are worse + leave the picks exposed
• Got rid of the hip pocket and gear loop
• Got rid of the stretch pockets on both sides (useful for carrying pickets, collapsable poles, etc.)
• All straps seem to have gotten skinnier. I have to imagine this is noticeable when the pack is fully loaded

And they didn't fix any of my gripes with the version I have:

• Avy tools pocket eats into the same volume as the main compartment, which is very annoying when you are fully loading the pack for a multi-day trip
• The radio clips on the shoulder are not very sturdy, and they are way too close to your face. There is not a good way to add a water bottle holder to the shoulder strap either. 

At least they kept the stretchy shoulder pockets for snacks/sunscreen... 

Than… what is better than this bag?

I just finding for winter climbing packs

My candidates are blue Ice’s alpine hauler, High mtn gear’s wallpinest haul bag and, Northface’s AMK 55

Thanks for reading!

The 50-60L climbing pack options seem limited so I'm curious what you find. I feel the Blue Ice Hauler and the Wallpinest are niche packs optimized for hauling, but would be less than ideal when wearing.

The Hyperlyte Mountain Gear Ice Pack 55 is probably the most common pack in this category that I've seen in the wilds. The Samaya Ultra 60 is worth a look. I just saw the new Northface’s AMK 55 in a store yesterday and it seemed like maybe the best execution of an alpine pack I've yet seen so I'm very curious for feedback on that one.

Doug Hutchinsonwrote:

The 50-60L climbing pack options seem limited so I'm curious what you find. I feel the Blue Ice Hauler and the Wallpinest are niche packs optimized for hauling, but would be less than ideal when wearing.

The Hyperlyte Mountain Gear Ice Pack 55 is probably the most common pack in this category that I've seen in the wilds. The Samaya Ultra 60 is worth a look. I just saw the new Northface’s AMK 55 in a store yesterday and it seemed like maybe the best execution of an alpine pack I've yet seen so I'm very curious for feedback on that one.

FYI, I love the northface’s product. Because, its products are very comfortable for asian and cheaper than other worse brands.

So, I’m gonna buy the AMK 55L.

When it is delivered.

I will leave a review!

Thanks!