Searching for a harness tie in protector

On instagram a few months ago I saw someone selling a 3d printed piece that would go around your tie in point to slow the wear that happens from passing the rope through.  (The wear point on the lower tie in loop).

I can’t find it anywhere, can someone point me in the right direction?

Was it this?

https://hangdogclimbing.com/products/harness-armor

Do you have rough ropes or something?

David Mehrlewrote:

Was it this?

https://hangdogclimbing.com/products/harness-armor

That’s the one!

Cherokee Nuneswrote:

Do you have rough ropes or something?

I did just wash them in battery acid, and ever since my harness is getting discolored and falling apart?  IDK but this should fix it

I recently wanted reinforce the  tie-in of my Blue Ice Choucas harness, as there is no overlayed nylon, just the bare harness strap, and obtained some Ultra100X with pressure sensitive adhesive on one side, which is an ideal material as its abrasion resistance is through the roof (67% dyneema). 

Bel Aoroswrote:

I recently wanted reinforce the  tie-in of my Blue Ice Choucas harness, as there is no overlayed nylon, just the bare harness strap, and obtained some Ultra100X with pressure sensitive adhesive on one side, which is an ideal material as its abrasion resistance is through the roof (67% dyneema). 

Mind posting a link to the adhesive you used?

It’s not a great idea to modify your ppe.

Mammut used to reinforce some harness at that point. So they lasted longer. They stopped doing it because that’s a wearpoint people know how to check. So the harness wore down in some other way people don’t inspect or can not inspect.
The tie in points are designed to be an indicator on when to retire your harness and wear down in a similar rate to other parts of the harness.

Maybe buy a beefy harness instead for your projecting and not take the ultralight for that.

Lukas Wwrote:

It’s not a great idea to modify your ppe.

Mammut used to reinforce some harness at that point. So they lasted longer. They stopped doing it because that’s a wearpoint people know how to check. So the harness wore down in some other way people don’t inspect or can not inspect.
The tie in points are designed to be an indicator on when to retire your harness and wear down in a similar rate to other parts of the harness.

Maybe buy a beefy harness instead for your projecting and not take the ultralight for that.

https://www.mammut.com/us/en/products/2020-00920/comfort-fast-adjust-harness-men

My Mammut Comfort harness that I bought this season has the plastic protector so they still do them, at least on some harnesses.

In fact, just checked and most of their harnesses still come with the plastic bit, seems mostly the lightweight harnesses that don't use them.

As far as I'm aware the reason mammut and other brands briefly stopped using the plastic wear protector was because of numerous reports of them breaking, of course you don't want sharp broken plastic anywhere near a rope or harness so they dropped it. Happy to see they have bought it back. 

There are a lot of ways harness's could be significantly beefed up with practically no impact on its weight. It's a bit disappointing that no brand has gone all in on a premium tier all dyneema harness. Maybe it will come now we are seeing UHMWPE monomaterial composites. 

Wrap in cloth tape. On layer upside down so the harness doesnt get the sticky side, then wrap over few times.
Dirt bag abrasion protection. It will absolutely extend your harness life adding the bespoke plastic things or any other form of abrasion protection to your tie in points.

Mr Rogerswrote:

Wrap in cloth tape. On layer upside down so the harness doesnt get the sticky side, then wrap over few times.
Dirt bag abrasion protection. It will absolutely extend your harness life adding the bespoke plastic things or any other form of abrasion protection to your tie in points.

What kind of tape are you using? Every time I've tried to do this, the tape gets shoved aside in the first few falls.

Big Redwrote:

What kind of tape are you using? Every time I've tried to do this, the tape gets shoved aside in the first few falls.

I have personally done this with duct tape. 

Its really not needed.   By the time you actually wear out the tie in points it time for a new harness anyway.  Having tie in protectors might encourage keeping it past its prime.

Kevin Mokracekwrote:

Its really not needed.   By the time you actually wear out the tie in points it time for a new harness anyway.  Having tie in protectors might encourage keeping it past its prime.

I wore through my Blue Ice hard point in a year, where the rest of the harness is in perfectly good shape. Some ultralight harnesses just suffer from low abrasion resistance at high wear points.

Big Redwrote:

Mind posting a link to the adhesive you used?

https://www.adventurexpert.com/product/ultra-100-psa-small-piece/

Kevin Mokracekwrote:

Its really not needed.   By the time you actually wear out the tie in points it time for a new harness anyway.  Having tie in protectors might encourage keeping it past its prime.

I have definitly had tie in points wear pre maturely. I mean harness MFGs add abrasion protection many times as is with a sacrificial piece of webbing, or a plastic thing, so safe to say IMO, if you dont abraid through the important stuff it will last longer by abraiding the sacrificial stuff first. Its not just the rope abraiding, but I have found the "end" of the belay loop on harnesses can cause plenty of wear too. the "end" being the the little snaggy end of the loop if its not "infinity"style..... can be sharp little bit there.

BIG RED:
I have used Mueller Euro tape with good success. Being very intentional aroundwrappig tight, and with enough overlap is important. A friend had suggested hockey stick tape, I have not tried that yet, but they swear its awesome for the job. And comes in fun colors.