Hook/Beak tie-in loop

The standard method of using webbing with a water knot to create tie in loops for hooks and beaks seems bulky. Why not use 5mm tech cord with double fisherman knot? The tech cord is plenty strong (10 kN) and would be less bulky.

or you can reach out to Skot Richards and have him sew in some bitchin' webbing into your hooks

The second photo above is correct - see how the hook gets pulled inwards towards the rock when you weight the sling?  Also note that the sling is tied in an EDK-style flat overhand knot, and not a water knot. Once you have securely tightened the knot, it doesn't hurt to put a tight wrap of duct tape around the ends to prevent it from undoing.  

I also like the way the sling is tied short. So often you see folks using a too-long sling on their hooks which sacrifices precious height.  

I just had Skot sew mine. It’s cost effective & clean.

Late to the party as usual, but I have these on my webstore.  Lightest, least bulky option.  You can girth-hitch the loop so it tends to pull the hook inward, if desired.

SK99 Dyneema.  Two lengths: Micro and Mega Micro.  The megas are good for pin tie-offs.

https://zartmancruising.com/rigging-shop/product/seamless-micro-loops/

Ben Zartman wrote:

Late to the party as usual, but I have these on my webstore.  Lightest, least bulky option.  You can girth-hitch the loop so it tends to pull the hook inward, if desired.

https://zartmancruising.com/rigging-shop/product/seamless-micro-loops/

If you really want to market these, you should collaborate with the HowNot2 guys. They are expensive enough that you will need some hype amongst the nerd crowd. They look cool.

Kevin DeWeese wrote:

$14 each for a hook/camhook loop (pre shipping, $16 each w/shipping) is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit steep for something that doesn't need to be all that. 

See? You need buy in from the nerd class to start a big walling revolution that isn’t pickle based.

(Also, beaks need 2 loops!)

Rprops wrote:

If you really want to market these, you should collaborate with the HowNot2 guys. They are expensive enough that you will need some hype amongst the nerd crowd. They look cool.

I talked to HowNot2, but they're unwilling to carry a luxury brand such as mine in their store, and unwilling to give video ink to something they won't sell.  Makes sense, from their point of view, since the YouTube channel serves to advertise the store.

@Kevin: they only seem expensive to those who don't yet appreciate the value of stronger, lighter, and more durable gear.  Those gung-ho on trimming weight and bulk where they can, and who want their gear to last, find the price reasonable.

Ben Zartman wrote:

Late to the party as usual, but I have these on my webstore.  Lightest, least bulky option.  You can girth-hitch the loop so it tends to pull the hook inward, if desired.

SK99 Dyneema.  Two lengths: Micro and Mega Micro.  The megas are good for pin tie-offs.

https://zartmancruising.com/rigging-shop/product/seamless-micro-loops/

Hi I have a question about this photo. Should the hooks on the left be girth hitched on the other side so the loop is closer to the rock?

Dan The Man wrote:

Hi I have a question about this photo. Should the hooks on the left be girth hitched on the other side so the loop is closer to the rock?

Kevin beat me to it, but yes: in the photo I was playing around with different ways to girth--there's options.

There's also a variety of ways to use the Mega Micro loops: girth the pin body, choke with a slipknot, girth or basket the eye.  I've just made a few more batches of both, ready for wall season.