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Where to get a sand bag for lead belayer

Oskar Ski · · Ford Country · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 130

Sandbags? I am so confused lol

Glowering · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 16

Buy a couple cases of beer. Drink a few every night, Pretty soon you'll have the weight on you all the time.

8 kN · · Newport Beach, CA · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 70
Ry C wrote:

That’s just in the gym, where the risk is much lower...we intentionally take big falls/victory whips because there’s no ledge potential and chances of decking are smaller.

Outside, yes it’s another can of worms and I’m aware of the risks. I’m not sure if you’re being serious about hauling a couple of sandbags up a multipitch route...

I’m not sure if you’re being serious about hauling a couple of sandbags up a multipitch route... - is he serious about this?? 

Yukon Cornelius · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0
Mike S wrote:

The Gunks is said to be sandbagged. You can take your partner there and sandbag him/her/it

You can just say "them"

John DeRoo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 0
Jake wander wrote:

Maybe have your partner wear a weight vest if your gym won’t allow you to use sandbags. Easy to find a 50lb vest

I know this is a long-dormant thread, but it is still relevant for many people.  I have been using a 20 lb vest at the gym for belaying, and sometimes for climbing, for a few months.  It is nice to be able to move around and to have just enough weight to be able to give a soft catch and not end up hanging at the first clip.  BUT, keep in mind that all of the force exerted by the weight vest goes through the belayer's shoulders and spine before countering the force on their harness.  I've been getting more lower back pain in the last few months and today I finally realized that it may be due to the vest, and so I warned my climber and didn't use it for today's session - and my back feels better, although I did fly up into the air a few times.  The heavier the weight vest, the more force it will exert statically and dynamically on the belayer's back, so if you are going to use a weight vest, use the lowest weight possible.

Cosmic Hotdog · · Southern California · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 310
John DeRoo wrote:

I know this is a long-dormant thread, but it is still relevant for many people.  I have been using a 20 lb vest at the gym for belaying, and sometimes for climbing, for a few months.  It is nice to be able to move around and to have just enough weight to be able to give a soft catch and not end up hanging at the first clip.  BUT, keep in mind that all of the force exerted by the weight vest goes through the belayer's shoulders and spine before countering the force on their harness.  I've been getting more lower back pain in the last few months and today I finally realized that it may be due to the vest, and so I warned my climber and didn't use it for today's session - and my back feels better, although I did fly up into the air a few times.  The heavier the weight vest, the more force it will exert statically and dynamically on the belayer's back, so if you are going to use a weight vest, use the lowest weight possible.

I think your advice here is well intentioned, but belaying in a weight vest seems like more risk to yourself and others nearby than it's worth. 

An Ohm or Zaed is a good investment to help alleviate weight difference problems. 

Desert Rock Sports · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 2

You might want to do a google map search. If your city is large enough you probably have a few stores that actually sell filled sand or gravel bags for construction. While it would be odd to just want one and they usually supply pallets full of them, they would probably do that for you.

Ex:
https://www.sandbagstore.com/ is in Las Vegas, NV.

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