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Arcteryx Squamish hoody (wind layer/soft shell) question

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Bug Boy · · Boulder, CO :( · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 81

Does anyone know if the latest version of the Arc hoody has a hood that fits well over a jacket? or any wind layers that do? I have a  Houdini and BD alpine but both of these are also ia pretty tight fit over a helmet and don't allow me to both move my head and have it all the way zipped up. 

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236

The new squamish was a major regression as far as being a proper shell, they slimmed the fit reducing mobility and ability to fit over layers as well as removing the adjustable cuffs which also make it worse for pulling the cuffs up high or cinching down in bad weather. 

I've had the old squamish and the most recent iteration of the alpine start and while I think the squamish is a better hood in general the alpine start works much better over a helmet, idk what helmet you have but I've had no issues with head mobility in my alpine start. 

Sadly there are no good lightweight windbreakers out there that have a really good helmet compatable hood. The mountain equipment squall is the closest but too heavy and personally I hate the offset zip for this application. 

This has been a long search for me and in the end the alpine start was the best option. 

Graham Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 0

I’m actually quite happy with my latest iteration of the Squamish hoody and I think the hood fits okay over a helmet (mammut wall rider or new bd vapor). Could be better but it’s not bad. 

Alex Styp · · Eldorado Springs · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 75

I use the the new Squamish and it works great with my giant head and large bd vector helmet. It is crazy light weight which I I guess is the trade off for losing adjustable cuffs. It has only one breast pocket (I don't mind this at all). It clips to my harness very well in its own pocket and I can forget it's there until needed. Doesn't give you the option to get your face down into the cuff for protection like some other soft shells {a lot of RAB stuff, for example) but I'm not huddled in spindrifts on belay whilst wearing it either. I give it a 9/10. 

I'm 6"2 190lb with a +3.5 ape index and it actually covers my arms pretty well whilst reaching(size L Squamish), and generally stays tucked into the harness. If it was an inch or two longer in the hem it would edge closer to a 10/10 light shell for me, but I also have a freakishly long torso and short ass legs so ymmv. It is not super loose so I might upsize it if I was trying to layer it over something bulky like a medium weight puffy, but it does ok over something like an R1. The og Houdini is probably the goat for  borderline inappropriate/ultralight Steve house type layering shenanigans imo. 

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70

Mammut Aenergy WB Jacket. Much better fit than the Squamish, better water repellancy, and better helmet-compatible hood. Also way better breathability than the Houdini, which feels like a plastic bag in comparison. It doesn't get any press here in the states but IMO it's the class leader by a lot, especially since Patagonia discontinued the Houdini Air. It's also more durable than the Air because it's reinforced in the climber-side arms.

Eli W · · Oregon · Joined Aug 2021 · Points: 0

It’s discontinued, and heavier than I’d like, but the OR Ferrosi Summit had a fantastic helmet compatible hood w/ wire brim and all. Might be able to find new-old stock or used.

that guy named seb · · Britland · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 236
Eli W wrote:

It’s discontinued, and heavier than I’d like, but the OR Ferrosi Summit had a fantastic helmet compatible hood w/ wire brim and all. Might be able to find new-old stock or used.

The mountain equipment squall jacket looks like a near 1-1 replacement if you don't mind the weird zip. But yes, still very heavy. 

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