Hot Takes 2024

MattHwrote:

Hot take: trad dads are _more_ prissy about new bolts than they were in the 80s, they've just retreated to deified 'trad crags' like Eldo where the notable bolted routes are relics of the 80s. Imagine developing something like The Monument (a grid bolted cave right on the Eldo approach trail) or the Cathedral Cave (same thing at Cathedral Ledge) today. It'd be declared the arrival of the antichrist.

Also, total thread drift but those 'inflation' numbers from Eric are themselves massively inflated because he's using a conspiracy theorist's inflation 'methodology' that claims prices have on average gone up sixfold since 2000 (even the person who produces the ShadowStats numbers can't name a single product whose prices have gone up that much). 

Gold is up 4000% from 1972

Eric Mosswrote:

Gold is up 4000% from 1972

You won't believe how much my Apple stock has gone up since 1995.  Like gold, I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with inflation...

Inflation is a tax, pure and simple

Eric Mosswrote:

Inflation is a tax, pure and simple

They had ropes in 1995!?

Yes but we called them kernmantles. Rope was too pedestrian.

Eric Mosswrote:

Inflation is a tax, pure and simple

Are these prices all for 50 meter ropes?

almostradwrote:

Let’s hear em - 

I’ll start it off with a steamy one for the sport climbers 

- if you’re stick clipping up an entire route, you don’t belong on that rock climb. What are you doing.

- where did saying “on trad” come from and why hasn’t this died yet. “I climb 12a on sport but 11b ‘on trad’ “ I don’t feel like this one really needs much explanation but I can’t be alone here.

- and just a reminder day flash isn’t a thing 

Carry on, in style 

This guy gets it. 

If you need a stick clip. Don't climb it

Andrew Havranekwrote:

If you are in ohio Don't climb it

Ftfy

Connor Dobsonwrote:

Did you walk your tent to the crag?

Still not sure what stealth has to do with any of this

Noah Roachwrote:

Still not sure what stealth has to do with any of this

Your car has to be there anyway, might as well sleep in it

The " __(home crag)__ sucks" or " __(home crag)__ is choss"  is boring. Saying your local crag isnt that good as an act of sarcasm isn't witty or interesting.

Climbing has become woke. 

This thread has some good examples. Fire away soyboys. Please tell me how your absolute truth/style supercedes everything else.

Haha it takes one to know one amirite? That damn aging lactose intolerance is getting the best of me nowadays. I knew I should have kept a detailed log of boulders throughout the years so I could keep the trolls at bay. May want to update yours from V-easy so you can start hitting that to-do list you got! I need you to update your ticklist so we can use boulder grades as our sole source of climbing dominance over each other. 

2nd hot take. If you consider yourself a boulderer, soyboy could very well still be appropriate. 

Chad Elliottwrote:

Climbing has become woke. 

This thread has some good examples. Fire away soyboys. Please tell me how your absolute truth/style supercedes everything else.

Hot take: Chad Ellliott will be incapable of providing a cogent definition of "woke"

Hart Fuffer wrote:

Touche! That's a good one, I like it