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Flooding conditions from Hurricane Helene

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John MacleanakaWhitey · · north providence, RI · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 55

I don't see much information about what southern sandstone climbing areas are to be avoided because of flooding etc... and which are open for business as usual. Maybe the local climbers are fine with keeping the crowds down but really more important is that people know where not to go because they will be only adding to the overwhelming problems of cleaning up and reconstruction.  Also climbers spend $ in these areas which support the restaurants, campgrounds hotels. Come on folks, let us know what's going on, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

csproul · · Pittsboro...sort of, NC · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 330

I haven’t been in Western NC since the storm for obvious reasons. I’ve seen the pictures and some  from people I know in the Boone area. Lake Lure (Rumbling Bald) looks absolutely  wrecked. I’ve seen pictures of many of the Boone area roads, I imagine access to several of the areas along the Parkway and 221 will be down for a while. Same with Linville area crags. I haven’t seen anything directly related to Looking Glass.

I wouldn’t be shocked if many of these areas are inactive and/ or access “closed” for months. 

Jesse Neal · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Sep 2022 · Points: 16

The Pisgah National Forest is closed until Oct 31 or until otherwise lifted. That closure includes loads of access/FS roads.

PDF of closure document

Peter Y · · Chapel Hill, NC · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 6

Some of the state parks also remain open though others, like Stone Mountain and Crowders, are closed for the same timeline as Pisgah National Forest

https://www.ncparks.gov/closures

BigCountry · · The High Country · Joined May 2012 · Points: 20

Yeah John climbers and climbing are real fucking important up here right now. Just donate or stfu 

WLK · · Morganton, NC · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0

Yep - The Southern Appalachians have been hammered. There will likely be 10K or more people permanently displaced. Most without insurance and nowhere else to go.  Asheville is the focal point for relief operations - folks will be housed there for some time, pending relocation.

I expect Asheville to look like a refugee camp for a while...

As Big Country sez, Open your wallets for now. New Socks are badly needed. Call Black Dome, REI or others that have shops in Asheville. Place an order over the phone for in stock items and tell them to take the items to the donation receiving area.  Let's see some media coverage of the displaced in some clothes.  And don't tell anyone what you did.

Peace

Ezra Ellis · · Hotlanta · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 0

So I was thinking of personally delivering 20 gallons of water, black beans, lentils , rice , toilet paper, and diapers to the trailer park In Swannanoa this weekend.


would the police let me through on I 26 coming from Greenville sc.  I’d gas up in Greenville and easily make it on one tank.  Is his a good idea or a bad one?


are there people still living in that community?


is it better to just donate to the local agencies here?

Best

Ezra

BigCountry · · The High Country · Joined May 2012 · Points: 20

That area is wrecked bad Ezra, idk what to tell you. Best bet is to try and get in touch with law enforcement in the area, supplie areas are churches and local fire departments at the moment. But that area got it bad so I can't say for travel to it. But you may get supplies close. If anything g wait a week then come, when the new has worn off and people still really need help

KC Radford · · North Bend, WA · Joined Jun 2022 · Points: 0
Ezra Elliswrote:

So I was thinking of personally delivering 20 gallons of water, black beans, lentils , rice , toilet paper, and diapers to the trailer park In Swannanoa this weekend.


would the police let me through on I 26 coming from Greenville sc.  I’d gas up in Greenville and easily make it on one tank.  Is his a good idea or a bad one?


are there people still living in that community?


is it better to just donate to the local agencies here?

Best

Ezra

26 is open through to the TN line but is closed there. You should not try and go anywhere in WNC unless you know for sure that the roads and access are open. I have not been to Swannanoa yet but there is a good chance you can’t get to the spot you are thinking of.

Places that have access out are starting to stabilize as far as emergent needs. (Anyone you could deliver directly to can get access to food & water).

If you have a specific person or group you are delivering to that is great but otherwise I would suggest that you work with an organization that is taking donations they can get  it to where it is needed most.

Please do not come here looking to go climbing or recreate here. There are no businesses open to spend your money at, every spare space to camp is being used by displaced people. Most towns and municipalities don’t have working water systems.

There will be lots of opportunities to give to give below link is for the state fund
https://pay.payitgov.com/ncdonations

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2024/10/02/asheville-nc-flooding-how-to-help-helene-relief-efforts-in-western-nc/75472474007/

You can also drop off donations at the following locations: Reuter Family YMCA at 3 Town Square Blvd, Asheville, N.C., in Biltmore Park Town Square and Universal Advanced Manufacturing Center at 634 College Drive, Marion, N.C



Ezra Ellis · · Hotlanta · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 0

I have shifted my thinking.

I may make a delivery to be loved Asheville 

https://belovedasheville.com/

Can any one on the ground confirm the legitimacy of this organization please?


are they a solid group to give too?

Thank you 

BigCountry · · The High Country · Joined May 2012 · Points: 20

Man idk their legitimacy but think about this, Asheville is getting a lot of attention and a lot of supplies. The entire western North Carolina is wrecked. 

Curtis Baird · · Tennessee/Wyoming · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 1,840


The Carolina Climbers Coalition is accepting donations.

Tyler Barnes · · Boone, NC · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 116

I was helping in a small town outside of Boone this weekend because my wife is from there and we have extensive local contacts, including communication with the local fire dept. It's so heartening that so many people, just like John here, want to help. 

All the advise coming out of these areas is do not come here unless you are, (1) completely self-sufficient (do not take from the local resources), and (2) have clear and direct communication/instructions from locals organizations that are there, regarding safe access and what is needed. 

If you do not meet both these conditions, please do not come. Instead, donate. You can give money to any number of organizations. Here is a great trusted resource for more info and many places to give.

Full URL: appvoices.org/helene-relief/

Tanner H · · Boone, NC · Joined Nov 2019 · Points: 40

Hey guys, thanks for the love for WNC. I live in Boone and was extremely lucky to still have house, car, etc. Most climbing areas like Linville, Ship Rock, etc. are completely inaccessible. Wait until the roads are back and climb elsewhere for now. My wife and I have been distributing supplies at the high school and the things that are hardest to get are: flashlights, tarps, AAA and D batteries, diapers (especially larger sizes 5, 6, 7), tissues, laundry detergent, and medicine like Benedryl, Ibuprofen, Tylenol. Donations are being accepted at Summit Pickleball (hub for the Watauga Schools Distribution) as well as Alliance Bible Fellowship.

A good go to for monetary donations would be the CCC as mentioned above.  

It seems that UPS can make it to Boone, so if you were trying to ship something batteries and flashlights would be helpful (I went to 5 stores yesterday and only found two keychain flashlights).

Feel free to message me if you have questions.

Danny Bell · · Buford, GA · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 369

I am driving up to Boone Friday morning. I am leaving from Easley SC. I still have some room in my van for supplies if anyone wants to hand anything off to me to take  up there. I am completely self sufficient and have enough fuel to get there and back. I have coordinated with locals on the area. A friend that drove up Wednesday is sharing his route with me. I can bring several people back down south when I leave as far as Atlanta. Danny Bell  404-834-5823

Emil Briggs · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 140
John MacleanakaWhiteywrote:

I don't see much information about what southern sandstone climbing areas are to be avoided because of flooding etc... and which are open for business as usual. Maybe the local climbers are fine with keeping the crowds down but really more important is that people know where not to go because they will be only adding to the overwhelming problems of cleaning up and reconstruction.  Also climbers spend $ in these areas which support the restaurants, campgrounds hotels. Come on folks, let us know what's going on, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

You asked about sandstone. Chattanooga and points west are probably fine but as others have noted anything east of that is a bad idea. Depending on where you're coming from you might have to travel through an impacted area so really consider whether now is a good time for a trip.

DrRockso RRG · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 1,245

The Red had a lot of downed trees but didn't see the torrential downpour seen in Western North Carolina and Tennessee. Basically all the climbing areas are open outside of a few obscure spots in the Northern region. Expect some downed trees on the trails, but for the roads to be clear.

5.samadhi Süñyātá · · asheville · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 40
Ezra Elliswrote:

So I was thinking of personally delivering 20 gallons of water, black beans, lentils , rice , toilet paper, and diapers to the trailer park In Swannanoa this weekend.


would the police let me through on I 26 coming from Greenville sc.  I’d gas up in Greenville and easily make it on one tank.  Is his a good idea or a bad one?


are there people still living in that community?


is it better to just donate to the local agencies here?

Best

Ezra

get in touch with World Central Kitchen, they are based in swannanoa.

Ezra Ellis · · Hotlanta · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 0

World central kitchen has an excellent efficiency rating , a proven track record in war zones, and is scalable, I just donated here now.

ezra

https://wck.org/

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/world-central-kitchen

https://youtu.be/xBFVix1m8l0?si=pRSIX6D2G1Vtjt9m

5.samadhi Süñyātá · · asheville · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 40
Ezra Elliswrote:

World central kitchen has an excellent efficiency rating , a proven track record in war zones, and is scalable, I just donated here now.

ezra

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/world-central-kitchen

https://youtu.be/xBFVix1m8l0?si=fa_B6I-pdwjmkWWe

https://wck.org/news/helene-water-tankers

cool man! yeah they are awesome. They were literally the first relief organization up and running almost immediately. They had a path cut through so trucks could come in right away so there was almost no downtime thanks to them looking forward and thinking/planning on their feet. They've helped SO MANY people and continue to do it.

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Ezra Elliswrote:

World central kitchen has an excellent efficiency rating , a proven track record in war zones, and is scalable, I just donated here now.

ezra

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/world-central-kitchen

https://youtu.be/xBFVix1m8l0?si=fa_B6I-pdwjmkWWe

https://wck.org/news/helene-water-tankers

Why did you strike out the links?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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