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Spending a night hanging on the Salathe headwall in the rain (2017)

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Yuval B · · Leavenworth, WA · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 521

I've never shared a trip report here, this is my wildest one and thankfully still the closest call I've had which happened back in Fall 2017.  This was my 2nd time up the Captain and I have yet to return since but I would like to. First time was pretty epic too but in very different ways, maybe 3rd times a charm?

yuvalboss.com/trip-reports/2017-09-22-salathe/

TaylorP · · Pump Haus, Sonora · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 30

Great TR! Glad you guys made it through that.

Daniel Joder · · Barcelona, ES · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 0

Wow. Amazing story. Thanks for sharing that. When we get cold and tired and scared, mistakes are easy to make. Glad you didn’t. It sounds like you guys really bonded together as a team with the Chatt guys to get out of there as quickly and safely as possible. 

Mike Dougherty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2021 · Points: 0

Great story. Thanks for sharing. Any of us who've been climbing a long time can relate to the intensity of the situation, the camaraderie of teams helping each other out in a bad situation, the well-deserved sense of accomplishment, and the feeling that you've gotten away with something. But it's nice to sometimes read about other's adventures and not be the protagonist every time! You guys made a lot of good choices.

Ian Dibbs · · Lake Placid · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 2,506

Well written ... a good story .... not sure if attracts me to big walls or ....scares me away.

Braxton Francom · · Logan, UT · Joined Feb 2022 · Points: 0

That was fun to read! It sounded wild! Thanks for sharing!

Mark Hudon · · Reno, NV · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 420

I’ll give you a thumbs up for your perseverance and keeping a good, positive attitude but also a serious thumbs down for no rain gear and down sleeping bags.

I don’t know any of you, but I would’ve still been bummed to hear that three guys had frozen to death on the Salathe Headwall.  My second thought would’ve been “well, no rain gear and down sleeping bags, what did they expect”?

Yuval B · · Leavenworth, WA · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 521
Mark Hudonwrote:

I’ll give you a thumbs up for your perseverance and keeping a good, positive attitude but also a serious thumbs down for no rain gear and down sleeping bags.

I don’t know any of you, but I would’ve still been bummed to hear that three guys had frozen to death on the Salathe Headwall.  My second thought would’ve been “well, no rain gear and down sleeping bags, what did they expect”?

You're right that we made a couple really really poor decisions on gear and we got incredibly lucky as it could have been a deadly mistake and it was close to being that.  It's been a while since I wrote this and I'll take another look but pretty sure and I really hope I got that across, maybe its a bit positive I think you're probably right that I could have done a better job in sharing the seriousness of things.  I spent a lot of time intensely reflecting on the experience after and I know that the lessons that were there for me to grow from I took and still take seriously.  If anything I hope others who see this and find themselves at the base of a big wall with a splitter 7-day forecast and are considering leaving weather gear because of the forecast remember our close call - other climbers probably wouldn't make the same mistake, it's pretty dumb for sure but we were 3 climbers each with somewhere between 5 and 10 years of experience at the time and a lot of experience in wilderness outside of climbing and we though we were experienced enough to not end up in a situation like this but obviously that was not the case.

Mark Hudon · · Reno, NV · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 420

Since starting to climb El Cap again in 2009, the forecast has changed from perfect to not so good 25 to 30% of the time.

ALWAYS be prepared for bad weather.

Alex Ghiggeri · · Denver, CO · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 115
Mark Hudonwrote:

Since starting to climb El Cap again in 2009, the forecast has changed from perfect to not so good 25 to 30% of the time.

ALWAYS be prepared for bad weather.

Besides fleece layers (what do you use?) What else do you bring In your kit to be prepared for bad weather? 

John Vishnesky · · Durango, CO · Joined Jan 2020 · Points: 0

Such a wild experience!

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

Thanks for the TR!

Mark Hudon · · Reno, NV · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 420
Alex Ghiggeriwrote:

Besides fleece layers (what do you use?) What else do you bring In your kit to be prepared for bad weather? 

Fleece tights and top. Some sort of synthetic insulated coat.  Really good rain pants and rain coat. Gloves or mittens and a wool hat.
I’d have had some sort of tarp or rain cover, a good bivy bag, a synthetic sleeping bag and a blow up sleeping pad.

Two pitches before getting to the lip of the roof they were on Sous La Toit ledge. Not a large ledge but certainly good enough for three. I’d have changed into all of my bad weather gear there before heading up. (I would have stayed there till the storm had passed)

James Brassell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2023 · Points: 0

Awesome!

Andres Castillo · · Santa Mónica · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 0
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stephen arsenault · · Wolfeboro, NH · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 72

Really enjoyed your TR!

Brought back distant memories when I did the Salathe with Jim Donini in 1971.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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