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Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55
Nick Goldsmithwrote:

The Earps and doc Holliday had the best PR team on the planet. there have been thousands of gun fights in this country that rivaled or surpassed that one that no one even knows about. The big two that come to mind is the LA bank robbery where the two bad guys had  home made body armor and SKS rifles modified to be full auto with 90 rnd drums.  they made just one movie about that one and no one knows the names of the people involved. that event was the catalyst for the militarization of our nations civilian police forces yet few people even know of it.  OK corral they are all house hold names. FBI Miami shootout of 1986. google that one and wonder why no one knows those names...  It is used in training but the public has no clue. On any given sat night in the hood there is a shootout. Those guys from tombstone had a damn good press agent ;) 

It may not be that PR was good for OK Corral, so much as law enforcement prefers less people know the details of their failings?

I remembered both the Hollywood and Miami shootouts. Pretty much worldwide coverage. Miami resulted in 10mm adopted, I believe, which agents couldn’t shoot and resulted in the 40 calibre? Sig 357 was a pretty decent round, but 9mm is still the definitive standard. It doesn’t make sense to carry a Dirty Harry sized weapon to a domestic dispute case? If anything, non-lethal options should be considered.

Guy Keeseewrote:

Lu…. It’s not the size of your fingers, hands, rather how you use them. Just saying.

Hahaha, right. But in this case genetics enters the picture. Freakishly thin fingers and hands helps quite a bit.

Jan Mc · · CA · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 0
Li Huwrote:

Hahaha, right. But in this case genetics enters the picture. Freakishly thin fingers and hands helps quite a bit.

Only sometimes.  Other cracks are way easier with larger hands.  It is my experience that it tends to even out over the years.

Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55
Jan Mcwrote:

Only sometimes.  Other cracks are way easier with larger hands.  It is my experience that it tends to even out over the years.

True.

Back at the gym, I’ll get my revenge somehow and rate the fist crack 5.8 or something like that? Once I can get up it.   

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

Was the Hollywood movie referred to Heat with Pacino and DeNiro?  One of my favorite movies. 

I finally got to check out another 'pile of rocks'.... a boulder/rock that I have been wondering about for months.  Actually, up close it looks pretty good!  I dunno... is this a 'highball' or is it a roped climb?  (rock/boulder prior to the Sphinx - Herman Rock)

It's been a long summer and I'm getting restless.  I just saw these pictures of me, giving it my best, on a route WAY over my head... Dirty Tricks.  This was Jan's route (along with Mike Waugh, Kevin Powell.. Jonny Woodward and Darrel Hensel).  This requires more magic than I have... but could I say I'm a 'magician in training'?  It felt like such an honor just to step onto this route and try hard. 

Brandt Allen · · Joshua Tree, Cal · Joined Jan 2004 · Points: 220

Lori -

Herman, the route in your first photo, is a great route! I think it's on the hard side of 5.9, and it's a bit sparsely bolted for me to lead, but it's possible to climb up from the back side and hang a top rope on it without too much effort. From where you are standing in that photo you should have been able to see the bolts.

Edit: My older guidebooks call this 5.9. I see that it's rated 5.10- here on MP.com. I'd say that's fair. 

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

Li, we know of the events but no one knows the names of the participants.  the Earps did in fact have the best PR team ever. The dime novelists made them into hero's when in fact they were not much different from the outlaws they were supposed to eradicate.  150 years later they are still house hold names...  Thats some good shit there. 

We have had a week of wet rainy foggy weather. Beautiful today. waiting for things to dry out. Heavy dew last night. hopefully  by the time I get over to Mt Wishicouldtellya to work on my project that my fixed ropes will be reasonably dry enough to stuff through a gri gri. Also hoping that the wasp nest I uncovered when I did a big trundle last weekend will have moved itself somewhere else to get out of the weather.

Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55

Nick, it’s possible the participants were ex-military or police? I had read something somewhere about that. Or they had paramilitary training? Of course, where I had read it was possibly a tabloid?

Lori, more bad news regarding Mercury.



Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

The weather is changing, the seasons are changing. It’s just as hot, but it’s a different hot. I’m trying to learn the angles of the sun because suddenly it’s less painful to drive into the sun.. Every day is different and new.  i’d like to climb this guy, but he’s so tall and proud. maybe I can approach the Sphinx “courteously”.   




Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

I don’t want to take Brandt off his game because I know how attached he is to the carnivore lifestyle. All just to look good.  

I got a little tired of that other weird thread on protein. I don’t browse much on mountain project, but I can see why things get hostile quickly. And stupid.

Below is the most recent Instagram picture of the liver King, who once was called Brian Johnson.  I feel kind of bad about this… Brian was a kind, sweet dear man who was actually a sort of mentor to me when I was working towards a more “ancestral” lifestyle.  His business was pretty new.  I appreciated his Customer Service.



I don’t know where it all went wrong.  But here is the fruit of a VERY high protein diet emphasizing organ meats and a whole lot of steroids.  

Even after a huge scandal last year, and 90% pure hate on his Instagram account, he seems more confident than ever, defiant and committed to becoming a living version of the Hulk. I just don’t think he has long to live. :-(

Brandt Allen · · Joshua Tree, Cal · Joined Jan 2004 · Points: 220

I don't know if you're joking or not, but I haven't eaten any birds or mammals in over 50 years.

And it's been almost that long that I stopped trying to look good.

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250
Brandt Allenwrote:

I don't know if you're joking or not, but I haven't eaten any birds or mammals in over 50 years.

And it's been almost that long that I stopped trying to look good.

Yes, OF COURSE I’m teasing.  But you do look good without even trying!  

I must have a worm in my brain.  

Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55

I’m more likely the carnivorous mammal in this thread… still enjoy steaks. But definitely enjoy eating plants just as much.

Seems like many sources of food are deteriorating with climate change.

We’re going to have to do something soon, now actually.

Speaking of brain worms, looks like a certain individual is endorsing the “tiny crowd man”.   

Idaho Bob · · McCall, ID · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 757

Eating meat can get out of hand.  Read Stephen King's "Holly"

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

I almost never leave fixed ropes but this has been pretty fun  project. Its deep in the woods so no one will find them or be bothered.  I climbed the crux roof twice today clean on the gri gri.  its the weakness in the overlap just left of the ropes. I also want to climb the corner but that will be easier  to get to on lead.  Almost done cleaning and equipping. This is just the first 10 meters. the whole rig is 35m.

 another sunset at the beach. 

Brian in SLC · · Sandy, UT · Joined Oct 2003 · Points: 22,822
Idaho Bobwrote:

Eating meat can get out of hand.  Read Stephen King's "Holly"

Or McCarthy's the Road (!).

Colden Dark · · Funny River · Joined Apr 2023 · Points: 0
Lori Milaswrote:

The weather is changing, the seasons are changing…Every day is different and new. 

Yes, Lori, first colors of fall in Portage valley this weekend. Tele turns on last winter’s avy debris, anyone? I’m sure Nick can clear that gap on his Karhus 

Li Hu · · Different places · Joined Jul 2022 · Points: 55

Cannibalism will only work for a short time after a cataclysmic event and you’d need refrigeration as in the case of the Donner Party.

On another note, I should post this in the protein thread. See what responses are to be had?  https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/sep/05/human-meat-taste-cannibal

The people purchasing the meat as hot dogs were victims as well… yuck.   

I had watched “Soylent Green” as a kid, but still feel like veggies sound more appealing.   

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

Looks like an amazing place c

Colden. I am a pretty conservative skier these days..

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

A Facebook friend of mine tagged me in this post and it made my day.

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

I thought this morning I would hike somewhere else. This happens to be my favorite rock in all of Joshua Tree.  I know there’s no accounting for taste.    The route is Trix and who wouldn’t feel. COMPELLED to climb this tower to the very top? (apparently no one, that’s who!) 


I don’t know if Bob realizes what a gem he put up. But for you gym rats I wonder if you could create a route with such diverse climbing skills. The first 10 feet are what you would call “balancey”. This ramp is not even 2 inches in some places and there are no holds.


That gets you on your way to a very thin finger crack. It looks like a dihedral but it’s not. 



The next part requires some foot jams off to the left, and I got my foot stuck.


After which you throw yourself back onto the face and proceed on up. I never got to the “proceed on up part”.   that’s for the coming year despite Bob’s promise that I’m not tall enough to do this.

But I did get this far… (actually farther)

I just declared this my favorite summer ever. Total amazing freedom with no limits. I feel blessed.

How’s summer treating ya’ll? 

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