Chipping yet again... really, you must stop.

I was just at Pharaoh (originally V10) in Lincoln Woods yesterday, now way easier because a pinch was chipped into a crimp... Whoever this is has started to retaliate against those who posted on Instagram about this recently respectfully asking them to stop. Now they are going and chipping FAs done by climbers who voice their concerns. 

You need to stop. You're ruining every climb you chip for every climber after you. How incredibly selfish. 

I was projecting Pharaoh and now It's not a project at all for me. The joy in climbing is not sending a route It's failing because something is hard and the process of eventually getting better, sending it or never sending it at all... This is ridiculous and we can't undo your shitty choices. Chippers should be banned from the sport and gyms. 

After leaving New England and coming back, I can't believe this is what I am coming back to experience. Bolt cutting was one thing but this has no ethics. You are just a selfish piece of shit for doing this. Those who know me know that I don't get angry about much but I am pissed off and have had enough. Please stop. 

Do people really think we can be nice to these people? Be friends with them? Sit next to them on the bench in the gym? There should be zero tolerance for this behavior. How else can we punish behavior like this? There is no law in climbing just ethics... 

If people know the names of these people and proof it's them please post them here. We should all know who is disrespecting our sport and make sure they know we know who they are. Tell everyone you see their names and shun them for it in person and online. This will never stop unless we make it unbearable for them to be in the sport. We must be loud about this. We can't sit silent anymore. Being respectful clearly does not work. We have asked nicely... 

Thomas Olsonwrote:

I was just at Pharaoh (originally V10) in Lincoln Woods yesterday, now way easier because a pinch was chipped into a crimp... Whoever this is has started to retaliate against those who posted on Instagram about this recently respectfully asking them to stop. Now they are going and chipping FAs done by climbers who voice their concerns. 

You need to stop. You're ruining every climb you chip for every climber after you. How incredibly selfish. 

I was projecting Pharaoh and now It's not a project at all for me. The joy in climbing is not sending a route It's failing because something is hard and the process of eventually getting better, sending it or never sending it at all... This is ridiculous and we can't undo your shitty choices. Chippers should be banned from the sport and gyms.

After leaving New England and coming back, I can't believe this is what I am coming back to experience. Bolt cutting was one thing but this has no ethics. You are just a selfish piece of shit for doing this. Those who know me know that I don't get angry about much but I am pissed off and have had enough. Please stop. 

Do people really think we can be nice to these people? Be friends with them? Sit next to them on the bench in the gym? There should be zero tolerance for this behavior. How else can we punish behavior like this? There is no law in climbing just ethics... 

If people know the names of these people Please post them here. We should all know who is disrespecting our sport and make sure they know we know who they are. Tell everyone you see their names and shun them for it in person and online. This will never stop unless we make it unbearable for them to be in the sport. We must be loud about this. We can't sit silent anymore. Being respectful clearly does not work. We have asked nicely... 

how do you chip in a gym?...asking for a friend

Set up game cameras by certain climbs would likely help your cause

Insert namewrote:

Set up game cameras by certain climbs would likely help your cause

I almost find the idea of hidden game cameras all over the place in the woods creepier than dealing with some a hole, though it may be a necessary temporary evil in rare cases. I think it may have helped when dealing with KN's vandalism

We did use game cameras when we were trying to deal with KN at Farley, but without much success. We did get one picture of him from behind. We all knew that it was him, especially recognized the shirt he always wore, but it wasn't good enough for evidence in court. While it still may be worth trying in this situation, one major problem is trying to figure out where 'the chipper' will strike next---there are so many problems, in so many different locations.

what if you chip the crimp back to a pinch

M Spraguewrote:

I almost find the idea of hidden game cameras all over the place in the woods creepier than dealing with some a hole, though it may be a necessary temporary evil in rare cases. I think it may have helped when dealing with KN's vandalism

Ivan Greene was another one correct?

It may be creepy, but if it is potentially ruining access for all climbers it is probably a good way to self police someone

 It will only ruin access if other climbers bring their problem to the land managers.  that being said  this person is wrong for chipping other folks problems. to put it in perspective however one of the places i used to climb geology classes  routinely stopped there and had field days with their hammers taking samples and land managers could care less.  No one cares about a rock chip until a group of people make a huge drama over it... 

Insert namewrote:

It may be creepy, but if it is potentially ruining access for all climbers it is probably a good way to self police someone

Street justice

Why censor the chipper’s name? 

Eric Marxwrote:

Why censor the chipper’s name? 

Who said that?

The game camera may be enough to identify the culprit then you could chip his tooth. Joking. But not really. But joking.

People keep saying KN instead of the full name.

Eric Marxwrote:

People keep saying KN instead of the full name.

Because they don’t want the mods to nuke the thread. 

KN is a chopper, not a chipper. The difference between that situation and the current one, is that we knew that he was the one doing the chopping, and we already had served him with a no trespass order, so it was just a matter of actually catching him in the act ( which finally happened ). In the current situation, there is no definite identification of the chipper or chippers, which makes it much more difficult.

Oh oh, I know KN, met him at Ragged. He seemed nice enough but obviously his history precedes him. I think he’s finally given up climbing on account of age or health?

I confused that for the current initials of the unknown chipper.

Good to see the RMF finally got approval for bolted anchors and some replacements at ragged. Kevin Johnson is one of my best climbing partners.

Eric Marxwrote:

People keep saying KN instead of the full name.

I didn't have my garlic on