Have a chance to move to LA. How's the climbing?

David Katzwrote:

I  must laugh reading your quote that I am retired and don’t commute.

Maybe Google  “David Katz Real Estate”

In 2023 I listed and sold properties from Hollywood ( corner of Santa Monica Blvd and El Centro ) to Santa Barbara ( just below San Marcos Pass )

You might want to do some research before you make such claims

Dave you proved my point . You want more people crowding roads when no rational LA resident does.  Realtors, developers, builders, sales people, property managers etc that profit from overcrowding and overpricing and over selling want to jam as many people into California as possible. It’s all about making money and lowering standard of living and quality of life. Don’t follow a sales persons advice. Unless you make ten million a year and have a private helicopter. That’s what you’ll need to climb so cal. 

Diego Climberwrote:

Dave you proved my point . You want more people crowding roads when no rational LA resident does.  Realtors, developers, builders, sales people, property managers etc that profit from overcrowding and overpricing and over selling want to jam as many people into California as possible. It’s all about making money and lowering standard of living and quality of life. Don’t follow a sales persons advice. Unless you make ten million a year and have a private helicopter. That’s what you’ll need to climb so cal. 

How did you know I wanted more people crowding the roads? It amazes me you knew that I want to try to cram as many people as possible into California. Now where is my helicopter and how can I make money and lower the standard of living and quality of life?

David Katzwrote:

How did you know I wanted more people crowding the roads? It amazes me you knew that I want to try to cram as many people as possible into California. Now where is my helicopter and how can I make money and lower the standard of living and quality of life?

Dave, we all know realtors want to lower the quality of life in California so people will move away, sales will plummet, and you'll make less money. Duh!

Andrew Ricewrote:

When Nazis started openly marching down State st. in Madison?

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Back to the OP. They would move to the San Fernando Valley. For LA (actual LA, not Inland Empire etc.) that's the place to be IMO. Easy access to Malibu Canyon and Echo Cliffs for day climbs. Easyish access (if you can drive the grapevine not during traffic) to head North to the Southern Sierra. A bit of a drive through traffic to get to Big Bear, Tahquitz, Joshua Tree. But worth it to be in San Fernando and have decent day climbing nearby IMO vs living somewhere in the middle. Tuscon has Mt. Lemmon, so I think you'd have to climb both places and see if there's a big enough difference to see if it's worth it to move. On the plus side for weekends trips out of either place you have tons of world class climbing.

Hello,

I'm shooting a short film passion project this upcoming weekend (12/8-12/9) and I was looking to see if anyone has a home wall that would be open to letting me shoot there for about 4-6 hours. It's a self-funded project, but I'm willing to put a few hundred dollars in to make it worthwhile. If someone is interested, or has any leads, please email me at jack@pearlsnap.co

Best,

Jack

Andy , critical thinking and reading comprehensions are key skills to have .

LA is not horrible for climbing.  Lots of variety within an hours drive and even more within two.  Yesterday I finished a new 6 pitch 650' route on a crag an hour and 15 minute drive from my home in Burbank.  For those content to repeat climbs at established areas its a great place to live, if you like finding new areas and putting up new routes there is still plenty out there a few hours drive away.

Kevin- is the 2 open now?

I’ve been out by Mojave lately and sampled some of -I assume- your newest stuff.

Guy Keeseewrote:

Kevin- is the 2 open now?

I’ve been out by Mojave lately and sampled some of -I assume- your newest stuff.

In a roundabout way the 2 is open.  The Tunnels have been nice lately.  

I finally drove up a canyon I’ve been looking at from 395… go round the bend and this appears! A dirt road leads to the bottom… more stuff.

But remember LA might as well be Florida or Louisiana as far as climbing goes.

And Not my Name… I have changed my mind about LA, really. I had to fly into LAX on a Friday afternoon, 5:15, when the 10 was completely shut down! Took me almost 3 hours to drive home to Moorpark (regular time 1 hour). I could feel my Very Soul being sucked out from me!
So yeah, nobody should move here ever.
Later

That looks really good Guy.  There is all kinds of stuff tucked away in different corners of California.  

I feel like I got to enjoy the last fun in the LA area before it all went to crap. Santa Barbara was the place to live when I lived there. Tons of local climbing, access to all the classic spots of SoCal with a reasonable drive, great weather and the worst surf in the world to keep you focused on climbing. 

Now it sounds awful with jtree being slammed, Tahq being a gong show, traffic  making it so you can't travel... You all should probably stay there and not ruin AK for me now. 

Used 2climbwrote:

I feel like I got to enjoy the last fun in the LA area before it all went to crap. Santa Barbara was the place to live when I lived there. Tons of local climbing, access to all the classic spots of SoCal with a reasonable drive, great weather and the worst surf in the world to keep you focused on climbing. 

Now it sounds awful with jtree being slammed, Tahq being a gong show, traffic  making it so you can't travel... You all should probably stay there and not ruin AK for me now. 

I hate LA and will probably be moving to Santa Barbara in the next few years but as far as climbing goes I feel like I live in the sweet spot as far as traffic is concerned being in Burbank.  Freeway close and I feel I can always avoid traffic when heading out of town.  I never go to Josh or Tahquitz anymore and always head north toward Mojave and beyond where there is literally dozens of untapped areas to climb.  If a person wants to avoid crowds its easy to do with a little homework, if someone doesn't want to do a little homework they can climb with the masses at Malibu Creek or Echo and still have fun.  

Used 2climbwrote:

I feel like I got to enjoy the last fun in the LA area before it all went to crap. Santa Barbara was the place to live when I lived there. Tons of local climbing, access to all the classic spots of SoCal with a reasonable drive, great weather and the worst surf in the world to keep you focused on climbing. 

Now it sounds awful with jtree being slammed, Tahq being a gong show, traffic  making it so you can't travel... You all should probably stay there and not ruin AK for me now. 

What Kevin says….. Yes LA was stellar until it was not. But climbers have survived and thrived. With the advent of sport climbing and the change in attitude about “the size” of a cliff determining the quality many many places have been developed. Spots we all drove past without a second thought, assuming nothing was there, have had development. Almost every single one of these places is deserted 99% of the time. The vast majority of today’s LA climbers go to just a few well used spots- complain about crowds- on MP.
You wouldn’t recognize Santa Barbara now. After every fire a determined crew has gone in and sampled the now unblocked cliffs. If worthy a trail goes in and a “gold rush” happens, the trail gets sort of maintained. I go to a bunch of these places and have run into just a handful of climbers.
And don’t be to worried about AK becoming overrun, most of US SoCal climbers like to climb year round, in the sun.
Cheers

Redaction Roof 5.11 put  up with another route 20 feet to its right, Collusion Corner 5.10 after the 2018 Malibu Fire in Malibu Canyon. I never found the need to gym climb living in Los Angeles. There exists many outdoor climbing sites near or within Los Angeles, some are intensionally not published in any book or on the web to keep them private and pristine such as in the above photo. I still am aware of quite an few areas where first accents can go up within the Santa Monica Mountains.

Guy Keeseewrote:

What Kevin says….. Yes LA was stellar until it was not. But climbers have survived and thrived. With the advent of sport climbing and the change in attitude about “the size” of a cliff determining the quality many many places have been developed. Spots we all drove past without a second thought, assuming nothing was there, have had development. Almost every single one of these places is deserted 99% of the time. The vast majority of today’s LA climbers go to just a few well used spots- complain about crowds- on MP.
You wouldn’t recognize Santa Barbara now. After every fire a determined crew has gone in and sampled the now unblocked cliffs. If worthy a trail goes in and a “gold rush” happens, the trail gets sort of maintained. I go to a bunch of these places and have run into just a handful of climbers.
And don’t be to worried about AK becoming overrun, most of US SoCal climbers like to climb year round, in the sun.
Cheers

Glad to hear theres still some fun to be had out there! MP makes it sound like a hell hole anymore so glad to hear that is not the case.

We climb year round here, choss all summer and ice all winter... not sure what the sun is but the views are better from our worst crags than LA's best crags when you can see them!

Used 2climbwrote:

I feel like I got to enjoy the last fun in the LA area before it all went to crap. Santa Barbara was the place to live when I lived there. Tons of local climbing, access to all the classic spots of SoCal with a reasonable drive, great weather and the worst surf in the world to keep you focused on climbing. 

Now it sounds awful with jtree being slammed, Tahq being a gong show, traffic  making it so you can't travel... You all should probably stay there and not ruin AK for me now. 

There's about 100,000 people in SB who would bite you for referring to it as the "LA Area." 

Andrew Ricewrote:

There's about 100,000 people in SB who would bite you for referring to it as the "LA Area." 

I lived in Goleta where we say everything south of Patterson is LA

Hey Guy, don't you know that Moorpark spelled backwards is Krap Room?  

Just teasing. I grew up one town away and lived in the greater LA area for the better part of 25 years. Great weather, climbing, beaches, food, music scene. Not a bad place to hang your hat for a while. I don't miss the traffic, but hey, pros and cons to anywhere. Santa Barbara is great (lived there too) but $$$$.

There might still be some “housing” at Stoney