„Old“ camalots

A friend of a friend offered me some older (pre thumb loop but single stem) Camalots. A purple #4 and a green #5. they were apparently never used (look like new). Those are sizes I rarely need but I thought why not. What is a reasonable price (fair for both parties) and what’s a „good“ price (at which price do I basically have to buy them just because…)? Any reasons not to buy those but get the newer generation when I really need it? 

The non-thumb loop camalots suck, especially in the bigger sizes. That being said, those are good gap size cams because the current 4 and 5 are a little smaller. People will still buy those, especially Indian creek climbers. I would say those would sell for $50-$60/cam on MP. 

30-35 bucks per is the buddy price.
Make it more fun and flip a coin for each cam. You either pay 75 or get a free cam. Let fate decide who needs the cams more and who needs the cash more. 

If this type of risk taking makes you uncomfortable, just sell the cams you already have. 

Mike,

How are you able to get the quotation mark at the bottom of the letters?

FrankPSwrote:

Mike,

How are you able to get the quotation mark at the bottom of the letters?

On an iPhone, hold the “ button and you get more options. Works with other symbols too. 

How bad do they suck (without the thumb loop)? I do have mostly thumb loop c4s and one older 0.4+ a few older friends. Those are alright but the newer ones are just more comfortable to use. As I said, I don’t really need them but I figured when the deal is nice those might be cool to have. If they are a pita to use though I’ll rather pass and borrow one when I really need it. 

Mike Shortswrote:

A friend of a friend offered me some older (pre thumb loop but single stem) Camalots. A purple #4 and a green #5. they were apparently never used (look like new). Those are sizes I rarely need but I thought why not. What is a reasonable price (fair for both parties) and what’s a „good“ price (at which price do I basically have to buy them just because…)? Any reasons not to buy those but get the newer generation when I really need it? 

Got pics?

The #4 is alright although a bit heavy. It's slightly larger than a new 4 and is useful in offwidths. The #5 is total crap, definitely don't buy that one. It's too narrow for its width and has a tendency to rotate and fall out of a wide crack. There's also a red #4.5 that is between the other cams.

Mike Shortswrote:

How bad do they suck (without the thumb loop)?

They don't they work just fine. In fact, many prefer no thumb loop. I often palm the stem, cannot do that with thumb loop versions. Notice DMM or Metolius cams do not have thumb loop either. Though Wild Country does now.

null are some pics. I’ll most likely let it slide. I don’t really see any use for those sizes (I rarely get out on rock these days anyway) and I can borrow newer ones from a local club in exchange for beer if I need them.

Allen Sandersonwrote:

They don't they work just fine. In fact, many prefer no thumb loop. I often palm the stem, cannot do that with thumb loop versions. Notice DMM or Metolius cams do not have thumb loop either. Though Wild Country does now.

i definitely prefer the old camalots that didn't have the thumb loop.  i find the thumb loop really awkward, especially when you are trying to place the piec in the back of a tight flare, or when trying to clean a piece that is a little bit deep.