Name that route by description PNW edition (#2)

Next clue:

A 1971 movie, one of Fred Beckey’s partners fell to their death on the descent of a different climb on the same massif.

Hint: you might want to follow a compass ____

Ignatius Pi wrote:

Liberty Bell?

Not quite. I’ve added a hint.

Vanishing Point, Dolomite Tower. Which is part of Mt Baring ['Bearing'].

Ignatius Piwrote:

Vanishing Point, Dolomite Tower. Which is part of Mt Baring ['Bearing'].

You got it!

This one is rather more cryptic than descriptive; we'll see how it goes. I'm using MP's definition of 'PNW'.

"This route originally sounded like an undeviating draughts board pattern until binary fission prompted a nominal move east."

Edit. Don't want to hold things up so here's a hint: think 'continental' rather than 'contiguous'.

Hint #2: I believe that in the US 'draughts' is known as 'checkers'; nothing to do with military recruitment!

Hint #3: Taking 'undeviating' as one separate element of the clue, think about what one might call a route that doesn't 'deviate' - ie one that goes straight from bottom to top.

Hint #4 [after Deven's post below]: Think full-on alpine - ie rock, snow and ice for thousands of feet.

Hint #5: The 'binary fission' occurred at the end of 1992.

Hint #6: Hidden somewhere in Trentino Province's Val Gardena lies a clue to the mystery route's host mountain.

Hint #7: The route's main difficulties lie in its lower half, above which it merges with the classic line to its left.

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/108736082/seismic-wave 

I’m guessing this based on your hints

<< Deven Lewis    wrote:

https://www.mountainproject.com/route/108736082/seismic-wave 

I’m guessing this based on your hints >>

Hi Deven. You're right about the state - but I'm intrigued to figure out how you arrived at that route from the original clue and subsequent hints! I can tell you that you're not looking for a sport route - and calling it 'trad' would be to undersell it. Think full-on alpine - ie rock, snow and ice for thousands of feet.

I'll reply here to further suggestions so as not to fall foul of the posting limit.

Edit. Anybody worked out 'draughts/checkers board pattern' yet? And just added hint #5 above. #6 as well.

I'll post another hint here, and above, but after only one guess in three days I'm wondering whether my offering is simply stalling the thread and needs its plug pulling. Let me know.

Hint #7: The route's main difficulties lie in its lower half, above which it merges with the classic line to its left.

Ignatius Piwrote:

Hint #7: The route's main difficulties lie in its lower half, above which it merges with the classic line to its left.

I think this route's main difficulty lies in finding and naming it!! ;)

PortlandRobwrote:

I think this route's main difficulty lies in finding and naming it!! ;)

Hah! Somewhere among all the hints the mountain that it's on is 'hiding in plain sight'.

Edit. Hmm; thought that one might have prompted a result.

Ever wonder why chefs wear check trousers? No - me neither!

Edit. << I think this route's main difficulty lies in finding and naming it!! >>

Might the route's absence from the MP route guide/database be contributing to this difficulty? Quite surprising, I thought, considering its prominence - especially recently - and the fact that it was first climbed 39 years ago. You can find it, though - albeit with no detail - in the UKC database.

Ok; time to try something else. Here's a new clue to a completely different route. Not so cryptic this time. When either gets solved, we move on. I probably should have thought of this a couple of days ago.

"This is an old aid route on a steep slab. 'Slab' refers to its blank slabbiness rather than its gradient; the latter looks definitely 'wall angle'. To its right is an easier left-facing corner/offset with a name of locational relevance. Older still than my earlier offering, this route - the aid route - was first climbed in 1973; I've no idea whether the FA was digitally challenged - but his climbing career appeared to be mushrooming. In common with my previous route - in case anyone hasn't yet worked it out - this one also underwent some sort of name change; in this case, when climbed free a few years later, it acquired a simpler identity that both reflected its new status and was easier on the tongue. Has been off limits for some years, and probably still is - although apparently still getting climbed. Best not to step back when belaying, though!"

Crescent Crack? 

No! But thanks for joining in, and keep trying!

Edit. I've just searched Crescent Crack and have realized where one of them actually is! You're almost there, but not quite!

I'm quite surprised that this one is still holding out. After 'Zee's' guess a couple of days ago - which, I thought, appeared to have identified the relevant crag if not the actual route - I assumed that the correct answer was imminent, either from Zee or somebody else with a firm grasp on the bâton. But no. Presumably that guess referred to a different Crescent Crack. It shouldn't be too hard to work out, though.

clean crack?

saign charlesteinwrote:

clean crack?

Bingo! All yours, Saign.

Edit to a different route hint:

This amazing test piece of the area first ascent was done by visiting climber Will Stanhope ground up onisight

Zig zag Mt Erie. Dallas kloke?

Winter Sustenance?

Big Redwrote:

Winter Sustenance?

You got it

If we're talking about impressive onsights, this route's first sideways reach crux has most short folks scratching their heads until someone yells up "Well Lynn Hill flashed it!"