LCC - Salsa Verde
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The messages below were comments on the route ??. They were moved to this forum thread to "unclutter" things. |
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This "route" is an established TR and should remain that way. Contrived and over-bolted, the bolts should be removed like they were before. This was not an "abandoned" project but a TR that was bolted and then had the bolts removed. The TR just to the left of Green A also had bolts added but were removed. mountainproject.com/route/1… |
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How about you guys meet up, look at each other in the eyes, climb together, and keep it real |
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Its a fun climb and adds another option in the area if you are waiting to get on the classics. I don't really think it can be done at "only" 5.9. |
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It makes for a good approach pitch to get to Meat Puppets (which was rap bolted as well). I don't think I would ever climb this if it was a TR... |
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Shift Kicker wrote: No one would climb it as a TR - the anchors are not in a convenient spot to set one up. |
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Perin Blanchard wrote: I don’t care about whether this bolted or not, but I am a bit curious why you felt that a bolting discussion about a route doesn’t belong on the route’s page to stay part of it’s history? Moving the comments here seems like some weird attempt at censorship or covering something up.
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John Sigmon wrote: I don't think its a censorship thing. I think he found something that he didn't agree with, but wanted the community to weigh in. People may have not navigated to the route to comment there. Furthermore, people arguing about a route in the comments is a bit annoying at times and doesn't add value to the route page. |
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grug g wrote: I find it adds the valuable context of community opinion so I disagree. Maybe it doesn’t add value *for you* |
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I was just thinking the other day how LCC could really use another slab climb. |
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Sooo, who is going to own up to removing the route? Whoever it is, if you felt so confident as to act on your convictions, then it seems reasonable for you to confidently own your decision and any potential consequences there-of. You know, just like those who installed the hardware…a PSA. |
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+1 for reinstalling the bolts. All the Top Rope Tough Guys out there can still TR it with the lead bolts. The only part of the FA party’s actions that offended me is their argument that certain features are “off.” If you have to use bad beta to achieve a certain grade, the route was graded incorrectly. |
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I misunderstood the situation - I didn't realize the bolts had been chopped...WTF is wrong with these LCC boomers? Guess we just wait until they die and then we can bolt this slab and put bolted anchors on school room. |
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grug g wrote: Nice troll. Extraordinarily BAD idea. |
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zoso wrote: Here he is. |
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To be honest I can’t tell if the bolts were chopped once, or twice |
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It is said that the dark-triad perpetrator will more often than not show up to the crime scene. (or forum?) |
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grug g wrote: That's funny. I've been known to be passionate about stuff but that's too much work just to be a dick. |
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If I were a detective I’d pull Johannsolo’s file and pay him a visit |
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My position on this is stated up thread but you'll need to keep looking for the perp. I'm too old for that. |